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Old 08-03-07, 01:39 AM   #1
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Hi there fellow captains

I want to upgrade my graphic card. Game was running smooth on 29 fps.
Now I use TM1.4 (which include Leo ocean mod).. This for me is a must have.
But my fps dropped to ca. 23 with some light stuttering.

My rig now consist of..
AMD 64 3200+ on Asus K8N socket 754
2 GB ram DDR (400mhz)
XFX 7600 GT 256mb
Windows XP (1280x1024)

I think the vid. card is the (small) problem here.
I have already looked around. The new 8600 series looks crap so far..
I want a card which has good results with AA & AF !

So it's gonna be a 7900 GS (256mb), 7950GT (512mb) or maybe a 8800GT
(still pretty expensive)

The 8800GT is also available in 320mb and 640mb versions.
Is there a lot of difference between those 2 (640 is also 100 euro more expensive)

What would you buy ? or should I upgrade something else ?

Thanks,

Foo
p.s. I want to stay with nvidia !
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Old 08-03-07, 01:46 AM   #2
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Personally, I would recommend getting NVIDIA 8800 320Mb if you're not using very high resolution. Definately skip the 8600 series. Expensive and relative useless IMO

EDIT: Althought in this case, your CPU would be kind of a major bottleneck
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Old 08-03-07, 01:55 AM   #3
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Personally, I would recommend getting NVIDIA 8800 320Mb if you're not using very high resolution. Definately skip the 8600 series. Expensive and relative useless IMO

EDIT: Althought in this case, your CPU would be kind of a major bottleneck
Here's also something that is pretty important..

7900GS euro 109,00
7950GT euro 159,00
8800GTX (320) euro 299,00

All made by XFX..

I thought my cpu was pretty oke for now :p
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Old 08-03-07, 03:03 AM   #4
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I thought my cpu was pretty oke for now :p
Heh, nevermind about me then. I just have a tendency to think that if it's not a dual core, it's a bottleneck :p
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Old 08-03-07, 03:14 AM   #5
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I thought my cpu was pretty oke for now :p
Heh, nevermind about me then. I just have a tendency to think that if it's not a dual core, it's a bottleneck :p
I do agree with you that the 8800 serie maybe is a size to big for the rest of my rig.
The 7950 also seems to be a very good card for half the price of an 8800..

:hmm:
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Old 08-03-07, 03:25 AM   #6
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I do agree with you that the 8800 serie maybe is a size to big for the rest of my rig.
The 7950 also seems to be a very good card for half the price of an 8800..

:hmm:
But you'll do better with 8800. Besides, it makes upgrading your pc easier. Only need to get a new mobo, ram and cpu. I think you'll do just fine with 8800 with the DirectX10 games too

Wish I had bought that 8800 320Mb but didn't had the money so I had to buy this ATI 1950XT which is pretty ok for me. Hell, I play mainly two games only. The Silent Hunter 4 and Red Orchestra
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Old 08-03-07, 05:56 AM   #7
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Hi there fellow captains

I want to upgrade my graphic card. Game was running smooth on 29 fps.
Now I use TM1.4 (which include Leo ocean mod).. This for me is a must have.
But my fps dropped to ca. 23 with some light stuttering.

My rig now consist of..
AMD 64 3200+ on Asus K8N socket 754
2 GB ram DDR (400mhz)
XFX 7600 GT 256mb
Windows XP (1280x1024)

I think the vid. card is the (small) problem here.
I have already looked around. The new 8600 series looks crap so far..
I want a card which has good results with AA & AF !

So it's gonna be a 7900 GS (256mb), 7950GT (512mb) or maybe a 8800GT
(still pretty expensive)

The 8800GT is also available in 320mb and 640mb versions.
Is there a lot of difference between those 2 (640 is also 100 euro more expensive)

What would you buy ? or should I upgrade something else ?

Thanks,

Foo
p.s. I want to stay with nvidia !


My rig is almost identical with the same video card, and TM 1.4 had no effect on my fps at all?
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Old 08-03-07, 06:09 AM   #8
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Hi there fellow captains

I want to upgrade my graphic card. Game was running smooth on 29 fps.
Now I use TM1.4 (which include Leo ocean mod).. This for me is a must have.
But my fps dropped to ca. 23 with some light stuttering.

My rig now consist of..
AMD 64 3200+ on Asus K8N socket 754
2 GB ram DDR (400mhz)
XFX 7600 GT 256mb
Windows XP (1280x1024)

I think the vid. card is the (small) problem here.
I have already looked around. The new 8600 series looks crap so far..
I want a card which has good results with AA & AF !

So it's gonna be a 7900 GS (256mb), 7950GT (512mb) or maybe a 8800GT
(still pretty expensive)

The 8800GT is also available in 320mb and 640mb versions.
Is there a lot of difference between those 2 (640 is also 100 euro more expensive)

What would you buy ? or should I upgrade something else ?

Thanks,

Foo
p.s. I want to stay with nvidia !


My rig is almost identical with the same video card, and TM 1.4 had no effect on my fps at all?
Hmm strange.. :hmm:

But still I want to go to a mininum steady 40fps, preferably more :p
At this moment I am still leaning towards the 7950GT..

I am reading some articles, and lots of guys say that the 8800GTS is just slightly
better then a 7950GT on XP !
Next to that I don't know how this 8800 GTS will work with my AMD 64 3200+cpu. :hmm:

I hope it doesn't blow it up
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Old 08-03-07, 08:08 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by TDK1044
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Originally Posted by FooFighters
Hi there fellow captains

I want to upgrade my graphic card. Game was running smooth on 29 fps.
Now I use TM1.4 (which include Leo ocean mod).. This for me is a must have.
But my fps dropped to ca. 23 with some light stuttering.

My rig now consist of..
AMD 64 3200+ on Asus K8N socket 754
2 GB ram DDR (400mhz)
XFX 7600 GT 256mb
Windows XP (1280x1024)

I think the vid. card is the (small) problem here.
I have already looked around. The new 8600 series looks crap so far..
I want a card which has good results with AA & AF !

So it's gonna be a 7900 GS (256mb), 7950GT (512mb) or maybe a 8800GT
(still pretty expensive)

The 8800GT is also available in 320mb and 640mb versions.
Is there a lot of difference between those 2 (640 is also 100 euro more expensive)

What would you buy ? or should I upgrade something else ?

Thanks,

Foo
p.s. I want to stay with nvidia !


My rig is almost identical with the same video card, and TM 1.4 had no effect on my fps at all?
Hmm strange.. :hmm:

But still I want to go to a mininum steady 40fps, preferably more :p
At this moment I am still leaning towards the 7950GT..

I am reading some articles, and lots of guys say that the 8800GTS is just slightly
better then a 7950GT on XP !
Next to that I don't know how this 8800 GTS will work with my AMD 64 3200+cpu. :hmm:

I hope it doesn't blow it up
I have a 8800GTS and get a solid 72 FPS inside and outside sub.at 1280 x 1024 All ingame settings maxed Had to upgrade my power supply to 500w. You should have at least 26A on the 12v rail.

E6600 dual core
Asus P5LD2
Ram 667 2GB
8800 GTS 320 MB
win XP
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Old 08-03-07, 09:22 AM   #10
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Hi Foofighters, i just recently upgraded my video card from a Nvidia 6800 (256 mb) to a BFG 7950 GT OC (512 mb) made a hugh difference on my fps,from 30 fps to over 90 fps (1024x768)Perhaps not as good as the 8800 gts, but very close and less expensive with out having to upgrade your power supply as well IMHO. My Rig: P4 3.2 HT,2 gigs of ram(533)Windows XP Pro,and above mentioned card.Since there is no current DX 10 games out save you $ on 2ndGen. DX 10 cards when they come out in the near future
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Old 08-03-07, 09:32 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by FooFighters
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Originally Posted by FooFighters
Hi there fellow captains

I want to upgrade my graphic card. Game was running smooth on 29 fps.
Now I use TM1.4 (which include Leo ocean mod).. This for me is a must have.
But my fps dropped to ca. 23 with some light stuttering.

My rig now consist of..
AMD 64 3200+ on Asus K8N socket 754
2 GB ram DDR (400mhz)
XFX 7600 GT 256mb
Windows XP (1280x1024)

I think the vid. card is the (small) problem here.
I have already looked around. The new 8600 series looks crap so far..
I want a card which has good results with AA & AF !

So it's gonna be a 7900 GS (256mb), 7950GT (512mb) or maybe a 8800GT
(still pretty expensive)

The 8800GT is also available in 320mb and 640mb versions.
Is there a lot of difference between those 2 (640 is also 100 euro more expensive)

What would you buy ? or should I upgrade something else ?

Thanks,

Foo
p.s. I want to stay with nvidia !


My rig is almost identical with the same video card, and TM 1.4 had no effect on my fps at all?
Hmm strange.. :hmm:

But still I want to go to a mininum steady 40fps, preferably more :p
At this moment I am still leaning towards the 7950GT..

I am reading some articles, and lots of guys say that the 8800GTS is just slightly
better then a 7950GT on XP !
Next to that I don't know how this 8800 GTS will work with my AMD 64 3200+cpu. :hmm:

I hope it doesn't blow it up
I have a 8800GTS and get a solid 72 FPS inside and outside sub.at 1280 x 1024 All ingame settings maxed Had to upgrade my power supply to 500w. You should have at least 26A on the 12v rail.

E6600 dual core
Asus P5LD2
Ram 667 2GB
8800 GTS 320 MB
win XP
Power supply is no problem.. I bought a new Trust PW-5500 570W power supply a few months ago.
I am worried about the combo cpu (older AMD 64 3200+) and 8800 GTS.

@ captRari.. wow. Thats an impressive improvement.
More and more I think the 7950GT is a better upgrade for me
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Old 08-03-07, 10:19 AM   #12
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Did some checking on prices here in Finland and you can get the GF8800 320Mb about 280 euros. GeForce 7950 GT 256Mb costs around 220 euros and the one with 512Mb has the same price as GF8800 320Mb

I guess if you're playing games with relative low resolution then the GF7950 GT 256Mb is pretty good choice. Personally, I'd still choose the GF8800 but that's just me
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Old 08-03-07, 03:53 PM   #13
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My rig now consist of..
AMD 64 3200+ on Asus K8N socket 754
2 GB ram DDR (400mhz)
XFX 7600 GT 256mb
Windows XP (1280x1024)

I think the vid. card is the (small) problem here.
I have already looked around. The new 8600 series looks crap so far..
I want a card which has good results with AA & AF !

So it's gonna be a 7900 GS (256mb), 7950GT (512mb) or maybe a 8800GT
(still pretty expensive)

The 8800GT is also available in 320mb and 640mb versions.
Is there a lot of difference between those 2 (640 is also 100 euro more expensive)

What would you buy ? or should I upgrade something else ?
If you're dead set on your AMD (it was my old one and very nice) then I'd say the 640 8800GT. If you're flexible on the processor/mobo i'd switch to a socket with a higher transfer rate. LGA 775 is great for games. Plus it supports AMD single, intel single, and intel multi core processors (very upgradeable). ALSO...be sure that the card you are buying does not project in DX10. Unless you're willing to upgrade to vista, some people make the mistake of buying a card with Vista drivers on it(who knows why).

If you need anymore more help, or want system specs on how to max out the game, just message me. I've been testing SH4 and SH3 on video cards all year.
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Old 08-03-07, 04:00 PM   #14
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My rig now consist of..
AMD 64 3200+ on Asus K8N socket 754
2 GB ram DDR (400mhz)
XFX 7600 GT 256mb
Windows XP (1280x1024)

I think the vid. card is the (small) problem here.
I have already looked around. The new 8600 series looks crap so far..
I want a card which has good results with AA & AF !

So it's gonna be a 7900 GS (256mb), 7950GT (512mb) or maybe a 8800GT
(still pretty expensive)

The 8800GT is also available in 320mb and 640mb versions.
Is there a lot of difference between those 2 (640 is also 100 euro more expensive)

What would you buy ? or should I upgrade something else ?
If you're dead set on your AMD (it was my old one and very nice) then I'd say the 640 8800GT. If you're flexible on the processor/mobo i'd switch to a socket with a higher transfer rate. LGA 775 is great for games. Plus it supports AMD single, intel single, and intel multi core processors (very upgradeable). ALSO...be sure that the card you are buying does not project in DX10. Unless you're willing to upgrade to vista, some people make the mistake of buying a card with Vista drivers on it(who knows why).

If you need anymore more help, or want system specs on how to max out the game, just message me. I've been testing SH4 and SH3 on video cards all year.
For now I am pretty much fixed.. I have socket 754 which is pretty much out of the market. No real big upgrades are available. So for now the processor stays.
I don't have the money to change all..
The 640 8800 GTS is real nice, but also expensive (300 euro is really max)

What is your thought on the 7950GT ?
I was thinking of buying that one, and replace the cpu, mobo, memory and an 8800 in about 18 month. For now the upgrade is only for SH-IV.

I think the 8800 will be a lot cheaper then.

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^^^The 8800 will be ancient news by then, at least in DX10 terms anyway.
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