What will they ban next?

Often the health police say they must "protect the children." But children are the responsibility of their parents. When the state assumes the role of parent, it makes children of all of us.

Imagine this country with national health care.

Once the government starts providing health care, it becomes a state interest how well you take care of yourself. Your behavior becomes a factor in government expenditure. If you smoke, drink, eat fatty foods, don't exercise, you are costing the government money, and therefore, subject to government sanction.

Its a brave new world we are heading into. A world of socialism that can give you everything you need, or take it away.


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[dean_acheson]

Thank God for the nanny state!

What a joke.

Vote for Hillary, b/c it takes a village to tell us how to eat!

New York wonders why the rest of the county doesn't like them.....

A brave new world, no doubt.... egad!

[STEED]

It's the soft end of the wedge fat food, cigarette's and alcohol once they get there way with them what next? You guys could be going the same way as us Brits to few over here can see what's really going on, I hope more of you guys are wide awake.

[tycho102]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Imagine this country with national health care.

"Rich" people will be flying to Brazil, Columbia, Japan, Australia, and Singapore to have operations and diagnostics.

Everyone else will wait their turn. It's kind of like "Selective Breeding" when you think about it.

Originally Posted by tycho102

"Rich" people will be flying to Brazil, Columbia, Japan, Australia, and Singapore to have operations and diagnostics.

Everyone else will wait their turn. It's kind of like "Selective Breeding" when you think about it.

Modern eugenics.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by waste gate

If you smoke, drink, eat fatty foods, don't exercise, you are costing the government money, and therefore, subject to government sanction.

Why not?

I guess I'll never understand the other side of it, myself. As a self-professed socialist and anti-libertarian, I'm personally all in favour of a government that sanctions sustainability. Being a rational socialist, I can also see where the limits of these things should be.
Before you poke your finger at [reasonable degrees of] socialism, find me a better way to deal with the mess that present-day consumer societies have dug us into :hmm:

[Bort]

Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Imagine this country with national health care.


"Rich" people will be flying to Brazil, Columbia, Japan, Australia, and Singapore to have operations and diagnostics.

Everyone else will wait their turn. It's kind of like "Selective Breeding" when you think about it.

Well, in the US the really poor more often then not never get treatment at all...:hmm:

Originally Posted by Bort

Well, in the US the really poor more often then not never get treatment at all...:hmm:

That's not true. If it were the case dead bodies would be in your street. As it is you or I suspect your parents are paying for them without realizing that you do.

Originally Posted by CCIP

Why not?

I guess I'll never understand the other side of it, myself. As a self-professed socialist and anti-libertarian, I'm personally all in favour of a government that sanctions sustainability. Being a rational socialist, I can also see where the limits of these things should be.
Before you poke your finger at [reasonable degrees of] socialism, find me a better way to deal with the mess that present-day consumer societies have dug us into :hmm:

B/C if you let the government give you something without you working for it for yourself they (gov't) can take it away just as easily.

EDIT; let people work for it themselves instead of being slaves to the state.

[Fish]

Everybody here has compulsory healthcare assurance. Around 1400 dollars a year.
Only when you can't afford, the local government will pay a part of the money for you.
When you didn't go to the hospital that year, you can go to the locall doctor when you need him, you receive about 300 back.
With a new government in the make, I don't know what will happend in future of course.

[Konovalov]

I remember the time when I was a kid at my first school swimming carnival. My dad took photos of me whilst diving at the start of the race, swimming, and then touching the wall at the finish. I have heard that these days schools don't allow parents to take photos of their children because of paedophiles. This is just crazy.

[Torpedo Fodder]

Once the government starts providing health care, it becomes a state interest how well you take care of yourself. Your behavior becomes a factor in government expenditure. If you smoke, drink, eat fatty foods, don't exercise, you are costing the government money, and therefore, subject to government sanction.

I actually have a few thoughts on how to reduce or eliminate that problem in a universal healthcare system: simply mandade that any self-inflicted illnesses (such as emphysema from smoking) must be paid either out of your own pocket or by private health insurance. Also, I would allow private healthcare providers to continue to function alongside the public system, and there would be incentive to use the private system via some kind of tax credit, the idea being to encourage people who can pay for medical services to do so, while ensuring that anyone who can't pay can still get medical care. Also, to prevent the formation of a "two-teir" system (where you have a shining private system and a grossly underfunded public one that has vastly lower quality of care), I would make it manditory for all public servants and politicians (and their families) to use the public healthcare system exclusivly.

[PeriscopeDepth]

I certainly don't like the direction things are headed in now. People are getting fired for testing positive for tobacco.

PD

[U-533]

The driving law of evolotion is only the fittest will survive.
Why then would athiests want a government run health care system?



Heres a whole new can of worms..........

[VON_CAPO]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Imagine this country with national health care.

Once the government starts providing health care, it becomes a state interest how well you take care of yourself. Your behavior becomes a factor in government expenditure. If you smoke, drink, eat fatty foods, don't exercise, you are costing the government money, and therefore, subject to government sanction.

If everybody pays taxes, it is logical that that money return to the people, do not you think? :hmm:

Moreover, the government is just a group of citizens (our employes) with the necessary extraordinary powers to comply its purpose.

Is it the government money??? No Sir, it is our money!!!

I mean, is the government destinated to serve the people, or, the people to serve the government??? :hmm::hmm::hmm:

Edit: I think that the national health care would be selective.
It would be available only for those that made a choice to destinate part of their taxes to the common good (the population interest).
And it would be denied to those that made the vile choice to oppress the weak (antisocial behavior).