Chinese sub tracking US carriers

Gorduz · 11-13-06, 06:08 AM

http://washingtontimes.com/national/...1539-3317r.htm

sonar732 · 11-13-06, 07:48 AM

Even though this happened last month, Chinese sub shadowing our carriers isn't anything new. They've had quite a few run-ins with the Japanese Navy on doing ops around Okinawa also.

The Avon Lady · 11-13-06, 10:05 AM

This news item even made it onto Michelle Malkin's blog, with some submariner assessment comments as well.

Kapitan · 11-13-06, 10:31 AM

I bet all these chinese men went home for tea and medals

AVGWarhawk · 11-13-06, 01:16 PM

Like the submariner said, I'm sure we were on and tracking the diesel long before he appeared. The US does not send out BILLIONS of dollars of military hardware without protection below and above. You can bet you next paycheck on that!!

tycho102 · 11-13-06, 03:49 PM

The diesel boats are quiet on batteries, but they've got to recharge sometime. And when they recharge, they're hella louder than a nuke on quiet cruise. The problem is the cost, same as it was with the Tiger tanks.

Zerg rushes still work in the modern military domain. How do you fight a zerg-rush of diesel boats?

TteFAboB · 11-13-06, 05:52 PM

By flooding the bottom of the ocean with Lurkers, of course.

Yahoshua · 11-13-06, 06:16 PM

That's why the Navy developed better sonar...e.xcept it happens to kill all living sea creatures withing about 5 Km...

sonar732 · 11-13-06, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

That's why the Navy developed better sonar...e.xcept it happens to kill all living sea creatures withing about 5 Km...

There are sacrifices in all aspects of defense.

Kapitan · 11-14-06, 03:04 PM

This just reinforces my belief that the USN should have a dedicated ASW warship then i would say the USN has the best fighting navy in the world.

The USN is good but there are still some flaws that could be closed, also i would be very worried if the trailing submarine was a han seeing as they are incredibly loud so my question would be were they holding fire drills and no one was at the sonar station? thats realy the only way your not going to find a han is if some one isnt there or asleep.

aaken · 11-14-06, 03:47 PM

supposedly it was a Song, a diesel electric sub.
Well, it has happened in the past that a diesel elctric sub got inside a carrier battle group.
This story seems to be too much hi-toned...

micky1up · 11-14-06, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Like the submariner said, I'm sure we were on and tracking the diesel long before he appeared. The US does not send out BILLIONS of dollars of military hardware without protection below and above. You can bet you next paycheck on that!!

if only you knew the truth

SUBMAN1 · 11-14-06, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua

That's why the Navy developed better sonar...e.xcept it happens to kill all living sea creatures withing about 5 Km...

Well, that is an acceptable outcome if the result of it is killing all living enemies within 5 Km too!

SUBMAN1 · 11-14-06, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by micky1up

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Like the submariner said, I'm sure we were on and tracking the diesel long before he appeared. The US does not send out BILLIONS of dollars of military hardware without protection below and above. You can bet you next paycheck on that!!

if only you knew the truth

The truth according to the Navy is that they didn't detect it beforehand. At least one Senator is outraged by it too.

-S

micky1up · 11-14-06, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Quote:

Originally Posted by micky1up

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Like the submariner said, I'm sure we were on and tracking the diesel long before he appeared. The US does not send out BILLIONS of dollars of military hardware without protection below and above. You can bet you next paycheck on that!!

if only you knew the truth

The truth according to the Navy is that they didn't detect it beforehand. At least one Senator is outraged by it too.

-S

im not outraged although i can see why this senator is there is a misconception that the US forces to have a sub near it it must have been detected this is a diesel subamrine and capable of being very quiet clearly this senator needs to have a few lessons on the reality of submarine warfare and the capabilities of other nations

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Like the submariner said, I'm sure we were on and tracking the diesel long before he appeared. The US does not send out BILLIONS of dollars of military hardware without protection below and above. You can bet you next paycheck on that!! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The diesel boats are quiet on batteries, but they've got to recharge sometime. And when they recharge, they're hella louder than a nuke on quiet cruise. The problem is the cost, same as it was with the Tiger tanks. Zerg rushes still work in the modern military domain. How do you fight a zerg-rush of diesel boats? __________________ My little Silent Hunter 4 repository

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sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Even though this happened last month, Chinese sub shadowing our carriers isn't anything new. They've had quite a few run-ins with the Japanese Navy on doing ops around Okinawa also.

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Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That's why the Navy developed better sonar...e.xcept it happens to kill all living sea creatures withing about 5 Km... __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

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Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	This just reinforces my belief that the USN should have a dedicated ASW warship then i would say the USN has the best fighting navy in the world. The USN is good but there are still some flaws that could be closed, also i would be very worried if the trailing submarine was a han seeing as they are incredibly loud so my question would be were they holding fire drills and no one was at the sonar station? thats realy the only way your not going to find a han is if some one isnt there or asleep. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

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aaken Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Naples Posts: 188 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 1	supposedly it was a Song, a diesel electric sub. Well, it has happened in the past that a diesel elctric sub got inside a carrier battle group. This story seems to be too much hi-toned... __________________

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