UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Resigns with almost immediate effect as far as I remember.

The problem being, he will probably win the vote tonight.

[Mariner1]

Originally Posted by mapuc

How long time does he have left in Number 10 if the British Parliament vote against him-A majority vote against him ?

Shall he leave as he is or does he have some days to pack his thing ?

Markus

"Let me be absolutely clear..." it's not the British parliament which is voting, only those MPs who are in the Parliamentary Conservative Party(PCP - or is that 'Angel dust'?)

On the basis that those who are in power tend to hang on to it as long as they can, BJ's movements in and out of office will, for some of us, be agonisingly slow.

If he's voted 'out' as PCP Leader tonight, he has some time to put his affairs in order, report to Her Majesty that he can no longer in all conscience be her Prime Minister, and hang about in the shadows to influence or scupper the process for selecting a worthy successor.

I think he remains an MP, on the back benches, and can stay (like Teresa May) or go (like David Cameron).

But might one think that all the scenarios have been logged in the No 10 playbook - the outcome will benefit the Establishment, not the people?

Vomituri te salutamus

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Mariner1

"Let me be absolutely clear..." it's not the British parliament which is voting, only those MPs who are in the Parliamentary Conservative Party(PCP - or is that 'Angel dust'?)

On the basis that those who are in power tend to hang on to it as long as they can, BJ's movements in and out of office will, for some of us, be agonisingly slow.

If he's voted 'out' as PCP Leader tonight, he has some time to put his affairs in order, report to Her Majesty that he can no longer in all conscience be her Prime Minister, and hang about in the shadows to influence or scupper the process for selecting a worthy successor.

I think he remains an MP, on the back benches, and can stay (like Teresa May) or go (like David Cameron).

But might one think that all the scenarios have been logged in the No 10 playbook - the outcome will benefit the Establishment, not the people?

Vomituri te salutamus

Thank you, both.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Bozo and Cummings were a winning combination, when Carrie got involved it started to "Go To Hell In A Handbasket", so what went wrong?.

Carrie Johnson aka "Nut Nut".
The opposition don't win elections, the governing party loses them, and that's why Boris is in this mess, his wife and her interference runs through Government like diarrhoea on steroids. Parties, green policies and hiring her favourite friends as Bozo's advisers are down to her and it has been the undoing of Boris.
Boris is his own worst enemy, he has let his wife become a huge liability to him and the Tory party, no one voted for her and yet, she's been back seat driving her policies through Parliament since the get go, it has to stop now, and her "Green Agenda" needs kicking in the teeth immediately.

Dominic Cummings.
For all his faults he wouldn't have let most of this mess Boris is in happen, the problem with Boris is he's too easily manipulated by his wife and lets be honest here, when she closes her legs Boris gives in and lets her make some disastrous decisions, such as firing her main threat which was Cummings.

Cummings had ideas and he knew what the electorate wanted, his finger was pointed at the root of the problems of Government and he knew what to do about it, he definitely didn't deserve what Boris's wife engineered but in firing him Bozo was left with advisers who were bereft of any new ideas.

I don't particularly like Cummings but there's no doubt he was clever and he had a far better understanding of the electorate than those Tory MP's have, without Cummings to guide him Boris was just an untrustworthy, rudderless blunderer who has staggered from one screw up to another.

Who on earth could we be getting next after Bozo has gone?, Liz Truss?, Rishi Sunak?, Michael Gove?, god ****ing help us.

[Skybird]

Possible he looses this evening, but I dont believe it. 9 out of 10 times party greed goes before state reason or the common good. Do I bet on those ten percent? Think I don't.

Point is keeping him can easily lose them the next major election. But how many can count months or even just years so far ahead?

And question is: is there an alternative man standing ready who is less corrupt as Johnson is? I dont know, I do not trust politicians for princicple reasons, its my politlical "prime directive" to never trust politicians, and where I violated it a few times in my life, it did not take long until I regretted it, without exception.

[Jimbuna]

Well, whatever way the vote goes, we shall all know at 21:00 GMT

My money is on a Boris win but the number of votes against him will ultimately decide how long he sticks around.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Well, whatever way the vote goes, we shall all know at 21:00 GMT

My money is on a Boris win but the number of votes against him will ultimately decide how long he sticks around.

You were right he won this referendum.

Markus

[Skybird]

He may have "won", but rounded its just a 4:3 (211:147). Less support than Theresa May got back then.

Every man with integrity and some self-esteem, would have already quit before today's vote. But it seems this dog does not stop balking before it gets chased off the farm with stone throws and small-shot charges.

[mapuc]

147 Tories against him-This made me remember what Jim wrote ^^^
"the number of votes against him will ultimately decide how long he sticks around."

Markus

[Moonlight]

Bloody Hell!, I never expected that many MP's to want rid of Bozo, if they'd had a half decent leader Bozo would be writing his resignation speech tonight, as it is he's on a sticky wicket.

By-elections are coming up fast and if the Tories do badly in them its not only Bozo who'll be worried it'll be his whole front bench as well. Those Cabinet Ministers who are supporting Bozo at the moment will need to step back from him and start reading the room or else they'll be gone as well.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

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integrity and some self-esteem,

Two qualities that are definitely missing from his DNA

[Jimbuna]

[Moonlight]

Hey Starmer, when you and the rest of your Woke, Knee Bending, Champagne Socialist MP's are gone from Westminster I might think about it, until then it's an Emphatic No.

[Skybird]

Der Tagesspiegel

[mapuc]

So Boris you won this referendum- I would however if I was you watch my 6.

Markus