The Death Penalty...Is it right?

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Can I have some popcorn too?

Corn-again Christians!

[Heibges]

Originally Posted by Hitman

St. Paul What have I won? :hmm:

I think what he was referring to was Matthew 26:51-52

Matthew 26
51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.
52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

But again Jesus rebukes his apostles for using violence, so I am unsure what you mean.

The beauty of Christianity comes from it being a religion of victims. There is no earthly reward for following Christ.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Heibges

I think what he was referring to was Matthew 26:51-52

Matthew 26
51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.
52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

But again Jesus rebukes his apostles for using violence, so I am unsure what you mean.

The beauty of Christianity comes from it being a religion of victims. There is no earthly reward for following Christ.

Sounds like you're preaching tolerance again. That is not proper in the religion of Christianity. You are told to fight for what you beleive in until such days as you are persecuted for your religion outright, in which case that is the day you lay down your sword and accept death.

I am not sure who is teaching you otherwise, but they are doing you a dis-service.

-S

[Hakahura]

"The Death Penalty...Is it right?"

No, it's wrong.

[Tchocky]

Um, why should a religion be the basis for a code of justice that applies to unbelievers?

Why are ye having this argument?

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Um, why should a religion be the basis for a code of justice that applies to unbelievers?

Why are ye having this argument?

Maybe because the principles transcend religion? For example, the bible says "Thou shalt not steal". Should we therefore legalize stealing so athiests aren't offended?

[Camaero]

I am fine with the death penalty. They only problem is that there have been lots of people who were found guilty, but were really innocent. Just recently some guy was able to prove himself innocent after 11 or so years in the can. So for the death penalty, there has to be undeniable evidence.

Also, no terrorists should get the death penalty, that is too easy for them.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

Maybe because the principles transcend religion? For example, the bible says "Thou shalt not steal". Should we therefore legalize stealing so athiests aren't offended?

Eh, no. Stealing can be wrong without immortal zombie intervention. And it is.

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Eh, no. Stealing can be wrong without immortal zombie intervention. And it is.

So what's your problem then?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Hakahura

"The Death Penalty...Is it right?"

No, it's wrong.

Is too! (I can make absolutist statements all day long)

[Camaero]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Eh, no. Stealing can be wrong without immortal zombie intervention. And it is.

Every "bible" from every religion has many good ideas to live by. They also have very bad ideas, and if followed too closely can lead to a waste of your life, as well as other things.

In fact, everybody interprets them differently. There are so many different thoughts on it, I don't see how anyone can think they they are right, while everyone else got it wrong.

[Heibges]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Sounds like you're preaching tolerance again. That is not proper in the religion of Christianity. You are told to fight for what you beleive in until such days as you are persecuted for your religion outright, in which case that is the day you lay down your sword and accept death.

I am not sure who is teaching you otherwise, but they are doing you a dis-service.

-S

You sound a little confused. What you are describing sounds like Islam, not Christianity.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

So what's your problem then?

It's a strange way to discuss the Death Penalty, religion.
"problem" takes it too far, just silly to me.

[tenakha]

Who gives a damn about religion, the subject is death penalty, not religion...wether or not the bible (or any other religious text) allows you to execute a criminal is totally irrelevant. Religion and justice should never mixt up, unless you want to support islamic tribunals, jewish tribunals or christian tribunals, apply the shariah, restore the inquisition...

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Heibges

You sound a little confused. What you are describing sounds like Islam, not Christianity.

No. Islam promotes world domination, forced conversion, and if not converted, slavery - and they accomplish this through warfare. Christianity promotes fighting for ones beleive on their own turf against those that would force them to see things otherwise.

I do think you are a bit confused however.

-S