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Old 08-26-08, 11:38 AM   #121
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*an image*

Aren't these the four sisters in the Airforce or Army, two of them fly helicopters I think?

Isn't that a C-130?
I think that was mentioned earlyer in the thread allready, but right now I'm too lazy to find out.
I'm the one who mentioned it. I saw it posted in another forum about five years ago. They aren't sisters, they were women who served as cargo pilots and other aircrew, and they got together just for an all-female flight and photo shoot.

And I also mentioned that that .png picture is taking up an awful lot of bandwidth to be casually posted over and over again. Not my forum, but I'm told these things cost money.
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Old 08-26-08, 11:40 AM   #122
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So what.
I'll tell you another story.

My family was sent from the Southern Ukraine to Archangel'sk for being rich (and they truly did), for being Germans (and they truly had a lot of this blood in their veins) and for BEING enemies (almost 'enemies of the people') and they truly were enemies of the Reds. My grand-grand-father and all his brothers were fighting Reds in the Civil War in the Ukrainian insurgence Army of bat'ko Makhno. Of cause, they were not happy with 'collectivization'. They had their class reasons.

The trip to Archangelsk happened in 1933. There they were put in 'German spetsposelenije', i.e. a camp under guard for class enemies of the Reds with German blood.

When the war broke out my grandfather and two of his brothers immediately volunteered to fight for their Motherland - the Soviet Union that is. Initially they did not take them. And only after Stalin's order 227 when there was truly problems with new troops for Red Army, they took all my grandfathers and all males from 'German spetsposelenije' who volunteered to fight. They also Ukrainized their last names - do not make them sound like Germans. My grandfather finished that war in Austria 1945, second in Poznan', the third was killed in late 1942.
After the war as war veterans they took the family and moved back to Ukraine (thogh in another oblast

So, if honest - there was a class war at the time. They got what was due according to the laws of the time as representatives of opposing social class (i.e. 'people enemies'). They were enough smart to survive and be quite OK after the war.

There's a lot of talk about 'Ukrainian genicide' nowadays.
Heck, my folks did not notice any genotside at that time .
They mast be traveling to Archangelsk.
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