RA and Alfa tau - A case for freespeach - Page 8

Hawk66 · 01-06-09, 08:52 AM

regarding modding:

I'm not an expert in hard-core modding ;-) of DW; that means to add new playable platforms etc.
Any chance to mod the NSE itself or is that not possible/not allowed?

goldorak · 01-06-09, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk66

regarding modding:

I'm not an expert in hard-core modding ;-) of DW; that means to add new playable platforms etc.
Any chance to mod the NSE itself or is that not possible/not allowed?

You must be joking right ? :hmm:
Modding the NSE means modifiying the .exe.
I think SCS even of they don't care anymore about DW would go completely "ape s h i t " over this issue. Modding the dll's is one thing, changing the heart of the simulation through the .exe is completely different and a legal mine field for any crazy modder/s willing to actually tinker with the NSE.

Hawk66 · 01-06-09, 09:47 AM

just asking...though I had the same feeling.

I know that some publisher/developer have allowed to modify coding (and provide even the source code) but DW will probably never reach this state, since the NSE is still used in their government products.

LoBlo · 01-16-09, 05:30 PM

You know. Given the wonderful work that these two mods are producing. I would be uber cool, if one of the two were to consider some "how-to's" to allow the fans a glimpse to how to change weapon loadouts, etc. Just a thought.

Onkel Neal · 03-24-09, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk66

@Neal: Did you get any informations from the SCS guys regarding the future of DW or their commercial (non-government) plans?
Thanks.

No news is bad news. I do not think we will see anything in the next 5 years, if ever.

What's the status of the RA and Alfa Tau mod? Where is the post here about it?

goldorak · 03-24-09, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

No news is bad news. I do not think we will see anything in the next 5 years, if ever.

What's the status of the RA and Alfa Tau mod? Where is the post here about it?

The discussions have been moved to the DW mod workshop subforum.

Ra mod : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145517

Alfa Tau 3 mod : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145516

Onkel Neal · 03-24-09, 05:23 PM

D'oh! I'm a victim of my own forum strata.

thanks!

Sea Demon · 03-24-09, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

No news is bad news. I do not think we will see anything in the next 5 years, if ever.

What's the status of the RA and Alfa Tau mod? Where is the post here about it?

This is truly disappointing. Subsims simply won't be the same without modern naval games. If not Sonalysts, who else will develop these games in the commercial markets? Sonalysts laid some very good groundwork. I'm sad to hear they're not going forward and propagating any of it beyond DW. Lots of potential in their sim engine.

jmr · 03-25-09, 01:02 AM

What are these two mods exactly?

Do they install on top of LWAMI or are they completely stand alone mods?

Do they have homepages where I can learn more about them?

Theta Sigma · 03-25-09, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

If not Sonalysts, who else will develop these games in the commercial markets?

Dr.Sid's project looks promising.
http://www.commanders-academy.com/co...itle=Main_Page

goldorak · 03-25-09, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Theta Sigma

Dr.Sid's project looks promising.
http://www.commanders-academy.com/co...itle=Main_Page

Yes, but still several years will pass before we even have a version with basic functionality at least to play with. So in the meantime, you better like LwAmi/AT3/RA because there is nothing else on the horizon.

Sea Demon · 03-25-09, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Theta Sigma

Dr.Sid's project looks promising.

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldorak

Yes, but still several years will pass before we even have a version with basic functionality at least to play with. So in the meantime, you better like LwAmi/AT3/RA because there is nothing else on the horizon.

Right. And I'm not putting down those efforts. And I also agree that Sid's project looks very promising. But I still believe a commercial release from a game developer holds much more promise IMO. A gaming company has financial incentives to release their product in a timely manner and support the product with patches and other framework. A project like this has no financial incentive, nor are there any guarantees of support or even a release. Nor should there be without financial compensation. I'm looking forward to Dr. Sid's project, and am watching it with interest. But I would much rather prefer a game from Sonalysts. Or at this point, any other developer interested in selling a modern naval sim. Just my opinion.

Theta Sigma · 03-27-09, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jmr

What are these two mods exactly?

Do they install on top of LWAMI or are they completely stand alone mods?

Do they have homepages where I can learn more about them?

Forums yes, but not homepages really, since these projects started as unofficial and unsanctioned mods. As of the moment, Sonalysts is permissive of their existence, but who knows if they take on a more official seeming public profile?

Alfa Tau (Italian Project):
http://www.forum.maricosom.net (In Italian).

Reinforce Alert (Russian Project):
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=123
http://redrodgers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=172
(Both in Russian)

The forums have some English sections, but are also somewhat permissive of English posts in the main Russian threads. Use Babelfish or Google Translate if need be.

01-06-09, 09:47 AM	#108
Hawk66 Commodore Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 609 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	just asking...though I had the same feeling. I know that some publisher/developer have allowed to modify coding (and provide even the source code) but DW will probably never reach this state, since the NSE is still used in their government products. Last edited by Hawk66; 01-06-09 at 11:37 AM.

01-16-09, 05:30 PM	#109
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	You know. Given the wonderful work that these two mods are producing. I would be uber cool, if one of the two were to consider some "how-to's" to allow the fans a glimpse to how to change weapon loadouts, etc. Just a thought. __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	D'oh! I'm a victim of my own forum strata. thanks! __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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01-06-09, 08:52 AM	#106
Hawk66 Commodore Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 609 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	regarding modding: I'm not an expert in hard-core modding ;-) of DW; that means to add new playable platforms etc. Any chance to mod the NSE itself or is that not possible/not allowed?

03-25-09, 01:02 AM	#114
jmr Commander Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 462 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	What are these two mods exactly? Do they install on top of LWAMI or are they completely stand alone mods? Do they have homepages where I can learn more about them?