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12-03-19, 03:50 AM | #11956 | |
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Denying Israel its existence.. as far as i know England itself tried to do exacly that before and after WW2? https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...n-to-palestine Jewish Refugee Ships heading for Israel were attacked by the british after WW2: https://www.thedailybeast.com/mi6-at...ips-after-wwii Israel is building lots of settlements in There has to be a two-state solution, and denying or not mentioning that is wrong.
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12-03-19, 04:40 AM | #11957 |
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The alleged Anti semitism is only the tip of the iceburg for the modern Labour party really. There is no easy way to fix the Israel/Palastine issue, but taking sides certainly wont help.
I understand historical wrongs of Isreal, The British and the west in general and the danger posed by the far right and blind nationalism - but the jeeze Lefts current 'solution' runs along the most polarising crap: Constant display of White guilt and loathing of their own culture while gushing over others - so as to appear morally superior and virtuous. Childish belief that oppression and privelege can simply be messured by a persons physical attributes. The rascist right sees a persons race and assumes their culture and behavior is inferior The rascist left sees a persons race and assumes victimhood and an inabilty to make it the world without their sympathy help. Both are borderline sociopathic. What else? The conviction that a more 'just society' can be made by applying different rules & standards for different 'groups'. (Yeah Hitler and Stalin thought the same, didnt work too well did it?) Expanding word definitions to point where they become meaningless. Calling some one a rascist or a fascist carries no wieght if you use it against anyone in disagreement with you even if they are just milktoast conservative or what ever. Pro Censorship, if its offensive it should be banned or punishable by law. "I belive in freedom of speech.... BUT') The old right used to push that and it killed them. The only way you can ever be 100% certain you will not cause some offense to someone is to not speak at all. Swaths of Labour and the modern left have adopted this naive 'bigotry born of empathy' matra and while I hesitate to brand it has outright hateful as the fringe rights delusions, its dishonest and divisive and very creepy. And unlike its right leaning counterpart - its being spun as socially acceptable though media (as wokeness) and being taught to young people in our institutions (as social justice). As long as it continues, the lurch to right should not be surprising. Oh and when confronted neither side will clean up their own crap, so they just argue with WHATABOUTERY, e.g "yeah, but what about..." (insert some wrong on the other side of the spectrum) So lazy and cheap. I used to vote labour, but like Steed I cant easily vote for anyone now. Not when my vote just feels like throwing more fuel on the fire - no matter who its for. I'd vote if though it was actually helpful in the long run. Last edited by JU_88; 12-03-19 at 06:33 AM. |
12-03-19, 05:25 AM | #11958 |
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It is in large part Corbyn who will get Brexit through because of his unpopularity with the electorate.
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12-03-19, 05:29 AM | #11959 | |
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12-03-19, 05:30 AM | #11960 | |
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12-03-19, 07:49 AM | #11961 | |
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12-03-19, 08:19 AM | #11962 |
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Heh, yet theres that press confrence the orange gaffe king did with May a while back where he does mention the NHS being on the table (or Hints it). May awkwardly tries to dial it back.
To be fair on Trump though, he probably didnt really know what he was talking about (probably still doesn't now :P.) And even he does I doubt he particularly cares either way, and why should he I suppose, not his headache. Sounds like Boris probably asked him to say this anyway (damage control) if the NHS gets privatised post brexit (if 'post-brexit' ever becomes a thing), its our own government who should be held accountable anyway, not Trump or anyone else outside the UK for that matter. Anyway its all just words and pre election rhetoric, Trump and Boris's assurance the NHS wont be sold off doesnt mean it wont. Corbyn and Labours assertation that 'it will' doesnt mean it will either. Trust no one, dang it, wheres a foil hat smiley when you need one! :P Last edited by JU_88; 12-03-19 at 08:28 AM. |
12-03-19, 02:14 PM | #11963 |
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12-03-19, 02:36 PM | #11964 |
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12-03-19, 03:14 PM | #11965 |
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12-03-19, 05:34 PM | #11966 |
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Still elections in one week, or have they decided to delay things once again?
Man, just imagine how bored we all will be next Wednesday.
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12-03-19, 05:52 PM | #11967 |
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^ an interesting thoughts
Is there anything in the British Parliament that gives the right to postpone an election ? I can come up with some Death of some Monarch Some type of disaster Markus |
12-04-19, 06:31 AM | #11968 | |
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Looks like the son is following in his mothers footsteps and getting himself in the news for all the wrong reasons.
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12-04-19, 07:07 AM | #11969 | |
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12-04-19, 07:16 AM | #11970 | |
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It would appear Boris has 'grown a pair' at the most opportune time in his bid for an election victory.
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