14-year old girl arrested by agents - Page 7

fredbass · 10-15-06, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

How could it be that we have created and accept a society where more and more families obviously are increasingly vulnerable to detoriating of parental functions/responsebilities and family structures? WHY is there a lack of examples and idols, values and morals, social support for weak families?

In the U.S., there is a lot of social support for weak and poor families, but many are ashamed and don't look for help. I also think there are plenty of examples of people who could be idolized. There's still a lot of good people out there. But there are some issues. It has become quite typical for families to grow while both parents are working, whether it's really necessary or not. Mom should be home to raise the kids, if possible, and not someone from daycare.

sonar732 · 10-15-06, 01:30 PM

Wow...I can't believe that I missed this one! All that I have to say is that the Secret Service did their job in investigating a pictoral threat to The President of the United States of America. They get tons of mail threats and investigate every one...why is the internet posting any different?

As for the treatment of a 14 year old not being held accountable...let's have a reality check here. If a 14 year old commits a crime, they are punished. If the same 14 year old handed out a flyer at school with their principal in the picture instead of GW, they'd be suspended from school and if the principal wanted too, charges would be pressed.

If anything, I'd imagine that she'd be charged with conspiracy.

partial definition...

Conspiracy also resembles attempt. However, attempt, like solicitation, can be committed by a single person. On another level, conspiracy requires less than attempt. A conspiracy may exist before a crime is actually attempted, whereas no attempt charge will succeed unless the requisite attempt is made.

Another thing...it had been a long time since we had Iceman quote scripture, Sky write a huge manifest, and moderators editing content...truely an interesting topic!

Coda · 10-15-06, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

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Originally Posted by Coda

Questions for you. Who said the following? When was it said?

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when eleders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

hint: He wasn't an American.

Socrates :hmm:

Correct. I think it was quite a while ago.

ASWnut101 · 10-15-06, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Coda

Correct. I think it was quite a while ago.

heh, understatement.

Iceman · 10-15-06, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sonar732

Another thing...it had been a long time since we had Iceman quote scripture, Sky write a huge manifest, and moderators editing content...truely an interesting topic!

Lol...why why why?

Coda · 10-15-06, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by goldorak

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Originally Posted by micky1up

a peace loving person that like to draw knives in peoples hands is this the same type of peaceful person that owns a 357 magnum or an assault rifle

Is that so ?

So i guess that over 50% of the american population should go to jail seeing as they possess firearms, automatic weapons etc...
220.000.000 firearms are freely circulating in the USA.

Why would they go to jail? Owning firearms in the US is legal. I own "more than one" and I know plenty of other people who do.

Where did you get the 220.000.000 from? Did you pull it out of the same plae you got your other ideas about the US?

Tchocky · 10-15-06, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coda

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Originally Posted by goldorak

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Originally Posted by micky1up

a peace loving person that like to draw knives in peoples hands is this the same type of peaceful person that owns a 357 magnum or an assault rifle

Is that so ?

So i guess that over 50% of the american population should go to jail seeing as they possess firearms, automatic weapons etc...
220.000.000 firearms are freely circulating in the USA.

Why would they go to jail? Owning firearms in the US is legal. I own "more than one" and I know plenty of other people who do.

Where did you get the 220.000.000 from? Did you pull it out of the same plae you got your other ideas about the US?

Stop taking things so literally and the world will become a better place

madDdog67 · 10-15-06, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by goldorak

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Originally Posted by micky1up

a peace loving person that like to draw knives in peoples hands is this the same type of peaceful person that owns a 357 magnum or an assault rifle

Is that so ?

So i guess that over 50% of the american population should go to jail seeing as they possess firearms, automatic weapons etc...
220.000.000 firearms are freely circulating in the USA.

you mean like THESE:

MUAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH.

Skybird · 10-15-06, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fredbass

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Originally Posted by Skybird

How could it be that we have created and accept a society where more and more families obviously are increasingly vulnerable to detoriating of parental functions/responsebilities and family structures? WHY is there a lack of examples and idols, values and morals, social support for weak families?

In the U.S., there is a lot of social support for weak and poor families, but many are ashamed and don't look for help. I also think there are plenty of examples of people who could be idolized. There's still a lot of good people out there. But there are some issues. It has become quite typical for families to grow while both parents are working, whether it's really necessary or not. Mom should be home to raise the kids, if possible, and not someone from daycare.

Street gangs, an increase in the socalled "working poor" and drug abuse by young people are just three things that should not be there, or at least not so literally high then... :hmm:

August · 10-15-06, 06:54 PM

This thread is 5 pages of making mountains out of mole hills started by a person who never misses a chance to villify the US.

A couple representatives from the Secret Service interviewed the girl for a whole 15 minutes and then let her go back to class, but Skybird would have you imagining it was a Gestapo style raid with machineguns, tanks and the blood of innocent villagers running freely in the streets.

ASWnut101 · 10-15-06, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by madDdog67

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Originally Posted by goldorak

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Originally Posted by micky1up

a peace loving person that like to draw knives in peoples hands is this the same type of peaceful person that owns a 357 magnum or an assault rifle

Is that so ?

So i guess that over 50% of the american population should go to jail seeing as they possess firearms, automatic weapons etc...
220.000.000 firearms are freely circulating in the USA.

you mean like THESE:

MUAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH.

gots to gets me somes of thoses!!! for some squirrle control!

Coda · 10-15-06, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by madDdog67

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Originally Posted by goldorak

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Originally Posted by micky1up

a peace loving person that like to draw knives in peoples hands is this the same type of peaceful person that owns a 357 magnum or an assault rifle

Is that so ?

So i guess that over 50% of the american population should go to jail seeing as they possess firearms, automatic weapons etc...
220.000.000 firearms are freely circulating in the USA.

you mean like THESE:

MUAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH.

No pistols?

Where's the bayonets?

If anyone ever decided to invade America, they'd have to come up with a better word than "insurgency".

Forget the Army, it's the civillians they'd really need to worry about.

VipertheSniper · 10-15-06, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coda

If anyone ever decided to invade America, they'd have to come up with a better word than "insurgency".

Forget the Army, it's the civillians they'd really need to worry about.

Hmm...If you replace America with Iraq, I think someone should've told that Bush before going into Iraq.

madDdog67 · 10-15-06, 08:45 PM

Coda...don't have too many pix of my pistols. Also, don't have anywhere near as many pistols as rifles.

I've got a few bayos for some of the milsurps, but nothing too exotic. I'm into the modern stuff a little more, although I do have the obligatory M1 and M1 Carbine, 1911, etc.

What I need to pick up is an '03..still don't have one of those. Come to think of it, that might make a nice Xmas present to myself.

Coda · 10-15-06, 10:00 PM

Should start a "Post Your Arsenal" thread. I need to find the pic I got of my new DE and a watermelon.

I bet American civilians have more weapons than some armies.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,221 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This thread is 5 pages of making mountains out of mole hills started by a person who never misses a chance to villify the US. A couple representatives from the Secret Service interviewed the girl for a whole 15 minutes and then let her go back to class, but Skybird would have you imagining it was a Gestapo style raid with machineguns, tanks and the blood of innocent villagers running freely in the streets. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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10-15-06, 01:30 PM	#92
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Wow...I can't believe that I missed this one! All that I have to say is that the Secret Service did their job in investigating a pictoral threat to The President of the United States of America. They get tons of mail threats and investigate every one...why is the internet posting any different? As for the treatment of a 14 year old not being held accountable...let's have a reality check here. If a 14 year old commits a crime, they are punished. If the same 14 year old handed out a flyer at school with their principal in the picture instead of GW, they'd be suspended from school and if the principal wanted too, charges would be pressed. If anything, I'd imagine that she'd be charged with conspiracy. partial definition... Conspiracy also resembles attempt. However, attempt, like solicitation, can be committed by a single person. On another level, conspiracy requires less than attempt. A conspiracy may exist before a crime is actually attempted, whereas no attempt charge will succeed unless the requisite attempt is made. Another thing...it had been a long time since we had Iceman quote scripture, Sky write a huge manifest, and moderators editing content...truely an interesting topic!

10-15-06, 08:45 PM	#104
madDdog67 Loader Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: VA, USA Posts: 84 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Coda...don't have too many pix of my pistols. Also, don't have anywhere near as many pistols as rifles. I've got a few bayos for some of the milsurps, but nothing too exotic. I'm into the modern stuff a little more, although I do have the obligatory M1 and M1 Carbine, 1911, etc. What I need to pick up is an '03..still don't have one of those. Come to think of it, that might make a nice Xmas present to myself.

10-15-06, 10:00 PM	#105
Coda Medic Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 159 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Should start a "Post Your Arsenal" thread. I need to find the pic I got of my new DE and a watermelon. I bet American civilians have more weapons than some armies.