President webcasts to all the schoolkids....

[AVGWarhawk]

I guess this new world order wants children to grow up a bit faster than before....

I would say this is true but it started long before Obama.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Calming a few lunatics spewing their children will be forced to read Mein Kampf and wear Obama approved school uniforms was not part of Obama's vacation plan.

Call me crazy, but I always viewed the suspiciousness of the American people towards state authority or authority in general as a virtue, not as lunatic. Better to err on the side of distrust than indoctrination.
And thinking a politician might abuse methods of communication to further his agenda is a hell of a lot more plausible than thinking one might concert a terrorist attack on his own soil towards the same goal, for that matter.

Originally Posted by heartc

Call me crazy, but I always viewed the suspiciousness of the American people towards state authority or authority in general as a virtue, not as lunatic.

Truer words have never been spoken.

[antikristuseke]

Suspiciousness is one thing, this is nothing short of paranoia. There is a bloody difference.

[Skybird]

For a change, a comment from a source that is somewhat unusual here:

Originally Posted by The Prawda

The new academic year in the United States, which began on September 8, was marred with a massive verbal attack against President Barack Obama. As usual, the attack was conducted by ultrareactionary radio hosts, who compared Obama to Hitler, Stalin and Mao Zedong, claiming that Obama wanted to infect American schoolchildren with ideas of fascism, socialism and communism. Rush Limbaugh added Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-il on the list and said that Obama wanted to turn the US youth into Hitler Jugend and Komsomol Organization. Sean Hannity of Fox News called Obama a political pedophile.

All of those remarks were made after Obama’s 20-minute back-to-school speech.

Republican leaders in Florida and Utah urged parents not to let their children go to school on the first day of the new academic year, when the president’s speech was going to be broadcast.

"If you're concerned, keep your kids home for the day,” David Bradley, a Republican and member of the Texas State Board of Education told the USA Today.

Fox TV channel urged its viewers not to let Obama turn US schools into Gulags, Nazi death camps and Chinese concentration camps.

The White House was caught on the hop with such a storm of insanity.
In his speech, Obama urged children to follow their dreams, to respect teachers, to study well and make conclusions from past mistakes. Anything communist there?

“At the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world — and none of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibilities. Unless you show up to those schools; pay attention to those teachers; listen to your parents, grandparents and other adults; and put in the hard work it takes to succeed.

“So today, I want to ask you, what’s your contribution going to be? What problems are you going to solve? What discoveries will you make? What will a president who comes here in 20 or 50 or 100 years say about what all of you did for this country?” Obama said.

Does it sound like Mein Kampf?

Obama delivered his speech on September 8 at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. There are 15,000 schools in the United States, where 50 million students study. It is hard to say how many of them were listening to the president’s speech. Each school provided an alternative hour for those students, whose parents did not want them to listen to Obama’s speech.

Obama delivered a brilliant speech, as he normally does. However, when it was time for questions and answers after the speech, he became a totally different person. The president was making long pauses between phrases; one could see that he was taking a great effort to choose words for answers, as if he did not want to say something that he must not say.
A word spoken is past recalling. If Obama had said “Learn, learn and once again learn” then Rush Limbaugh and others would have had a good reason to say that Obama was quoting Lenin to 50 million of American students. Obama said nothing of the kind. All the accusations and comparisons do not make any sense. At all.

http://english.pravda.ru/world/ameri...obama_hitler-0

I just picked up by random chance some of the psychotic, foam-mouthed hysteria that answered Obama's speech. The level of ideologically motivated destructiveness is just horrifying. To imagine that such deeply rotten minds may have the power to command military forces and nuclear weapons, if terrifying.

We foreigners can just shake our heads in disbelief - even if we are no Obama fans ourselves. What is being shown in behavior just to dam,age Obama, is nothing else but pure vicousness that accepts even to kill American ideals and values just to destroy Obama.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The level of ideologically motivated destructiveness is just horrifying.

Yeah. Your ilk was very good at it regarding the transatlantic relations during the Bush terms.

We foreigners can just shake our heads in disbelief.

Please speak only for yourself. I told you that once already, Mr. Pompous.

[CaptainHaplo]

Funny - Pravda apparently can't tell time....

The "REACTIONARY" comments were all made BEFORE the speech - not after...

How could these "reactionary" comments advise people to keep their kids out of school for the day of the speech - when the speech was supposedly already given?

Talk about propaganda....

Secondly - it was not just the speech - but the accompanying material from the Department of Education that asked these students to write about what "they could do to help the president". What the article avoids talking about - is how such things were suddenly CHANGED and such wording PULLED only AFTER the PEOPLE PAID ATTENTION!

I don't say that Obama himself was looking to subvert kids, but the possibility existed that some in power were looking to convert as many of the youth as they could using this, and that watchfullness on the part of parents and other adults insured such a thing could not occur.

If this is all just a bunch of wacko's - why did the DoE change the material?

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

but the possibility existed that some in power were looking to convert as many of the youth as they could using this,

Convert the kids to what?

How exactly would writing a letter to themselves (in effect a Memo for record) on how they can help the President convert them? If the teacher choose to participate (for it was voluntary) the only people who would see this memo would be the student and the teacher.

How would this "convert" anyone?

I am totally missing what this could convert them from, convert them to, and what would be of concern?

Studying harder at school? Working harder in their studies? What?

Is this one of those concepts I need to wear my tin-foil hat in order to understand?

[August]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

If this is all just a bunch of wacko's - why did the DoE change the material?

The 64 thousand dollar question.

[CaptainHaplo]

Platapus,

Convert them to what? Good question. The key here is we may never know - but in all likelyhood things such as policy issues that are near and dear to the left - such as explaining to the kids how important "health care reform" is for their families, or how environmental issues need to take precendence over economic issues every time, or even how proposed "education reform" (which was one thing the administration initially said was a policy point they WOULD discuss) was badly needed. The key here is taking those questions in the context of what the DoE released - having the kids determining "what they could do to help the president".

The fact is, many of the totalitarian leaders of history retained their power base by focusing on the youth as a way to insure future support. We are not talking just elementary kids here. The fact that there were questions in the DoE that suggested "hero worship" toward the president were also greatly disturbing.

Tin foil hat? You can call it what you will. I brought up the question knowing that education reform was going to be pitched to others that very day by this same president, in a way that, on the surface, appears to continue a socialistic path regarding "reform". Given issues such as the "greek temple I won the presidency" speech, the OMG you can't disagree with Obama ever mentality of the press and some liberals, and now an apparent "Isn't he INSPIRING" question from the DoE to our kids, I see a rather unhealthy ego driven administration (or possibly just unrestrained stupidity by followers) and that means that as a parent, and as an adult who always looks at my government with a degree of concern, I see issues that continue to indicate that I MUST keep an eye on, and be suspicious of, every action this government takes.

The more government tries to reach into my pocket, or my home, the more I have the RIGHT and DUTY to watch it, smack its hand and keep it within the boundaries its SUPPOSED to have. Sorry if that whole concept says "tin hat" to you, but there it is.