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Old 08-13-11, 02:31 PM   #76
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1. I was just making the point about FDR

2. Oops on the Wilson thing

3. The ACLU has been taken over by democrats/progressives. Saying they aren't is like saying ACORN was bipartisan

4. I listed examples on the religious grievance. Also, see ACLU

5. If liberals can argue over issues hundreds of years old, so I can I.

6. I also know the EPA was Nixon's deal - but it has recently been majorly overstepping it's boundaries.

7. The cross was perfectly legally put there.

8. They haven't proved or disproved your last point.
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Old 08-13-11, 03:05 PM   #77
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So when the ACLU fights for students to wear Christian symbols in school or when they fight for the right for students to wear anti Islam shirts or when they fight to have Christmas trees put up or when they back abortion protestors right to speech, they're just being damn dirty godless liberals.

It's funny to see someone so uninformed act like they have it all figured out. You don't have the first clue who the ACLU is or what they do.
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Old 08-13-11, 03:12 PM   #78
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To me the ACLU is just a big defense law firm. Like any other law firm, I agree with some of the cases they represent, I disagree with some of the cases they represent and I recognize that there are a lot of cases they represent I simply don't care about.
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Old 08-13-11, 03:13 PM   #79
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So when the ACLU fights for students to wear Christian symbols in school or when they fight for the right for students to wear anti Islam shirts or when they fight to have Christmas trees put up or when they back abortion protestors right to speech, they're just being damn dirty godless liberals.

It's funny to see someone so uninformed act like they have it all figured out. You don't have the first clue who the ACLU is or what they do.
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Old 08-13-11, 03:21 PM   #80
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Exactly. And when the ACLU does all that and also fights for gun owners rights, our young friend here still hates them because they're some partisan organization in his eyes.
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Old 08-13-11, 03:22 PM   #81
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To me the ACLU is just a big defense law firm.
Except they take a very selective range of cases.

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Like any other law firm, I agree with some of the cases they represent, I disagree with some of the cases they represent and I recognize that there are a lot of cases they represent I simply don't care about.
The ACLU, by their very nature, tends to take cases that many people disagree with. Popular speech doesn't need to be protected. Unpopular speech needs to be protected, and that's exactly what the ACLU does. That makes them unpopular with a lot of people.
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Old 08-13-11, 09:08 PM   #82
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/19...omination-bid/

Again, he appeals to out of staters. Texans, not so much.

Oh, he appeals to some, he is the longest running governor in the Lone Star state's history
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Old 08-13-11, 09:27 PM   #83
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My deal with the ACLU is that while they do some good, they also do a LOT of stupid crap, like suing people for not hiring illegal immigrants.
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Old 08-13-11, 10:24 PM   #84
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Oh, he appeals to some, he is the longest running governor in the Lone Star state's history
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Indeed, the poll shows Perry trailing President Obama in heavily Republican Texas, which last voted Democratic for president in 1976, when Jimmy Carter was the South's favorite son. Obama leads 47%-45%, even though Obama's net approval rating is underwater at 42%-55%.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...a-in-texas.php

That was a month and a half ago, but still. Obama over Perry in Texas?
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My deal with the ACLU is that while they do some good, they also do a LOT of stupid crap, like suing people for not hiring illegal immigrants.
Interesting, any details on that?
After all it must be a very big story getting sued in court for not breaking the law.
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Rick Perry is officially welcomed to the microscope of presidental candidate media scrutiny:

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Los Angeles Times, August 16, 2011

Gov. Rick Perry's Big Donors Fare Well In Texas

Many or the GOP presidential candidate's mega-donors have won hefty contracts or appointments. Perry's aides vigorously dispute that any got special perks.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7718310.story
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Rick Perry is officially welcomed to the microscope of presidental candidate media scrutiny:

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Los Angeles Times, August 16, 2011

Gov. Rick Perry's Big Donors Fare Well In Texas

Many or the GOP presidential candidate's mega-donors have won hefty contracts or appointments. Perry's aides vigorously dispute that any got special perks.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,7718310.story
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But of course, no "mainstream" media reports on how many major donors got cushy positions with the current administration though.....
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@ Neal
So what do you not like about him? How does he compare to Bush (as gubner). Has he done anything you like?

I'm just curious what your thoughts are.
I have an Idea, how 'bout you guys make Shiela Jackson-Lee your gubner. She sounds like a live wire.



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But of course, no "mainstream" media reports on how many major donors got cushy positions with the current administration though.....
Ah, the classic "it's ok because they did it too" defense.


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@ Neal
So what do you not like about him? How does he compare to Bush (as gubner). Has he done anything you like?

I'm just curious what your thoughts are.
I have an Idea, how 'bout you guys make Shiela Jackson-Lee your gubner. She sounds like a live wire.



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