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10-03-21, 09:47 AM | #8806 |
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Wasn't looking to make any point Dave, simply showing each country in individual terms imho gives a far clearer picture of the state (no pun intended) each one is in.
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10-03-21, 09:59 AM | #8807 | |
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No doubt that some of them do have an education in virology. I should have written "Among ordinary people" Like our friends or friends friends on the social media. I see it almost daily a friend or a friends friend share some text written a by a person who claim to have an education. I myself does not have any education I therefore don't believe anything I only follow what our expert and our authorities tell me what I shall do and not do. Markus
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10-03-21, 10:03 AM | #8808 | |
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BTW State and Country are synonymous. According to Obama we have 57 states in our Union and the European Union has 27. Each with their own borders, flags, laws, anthems or song, and leaders.
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10-03-21, 10:35 AM | #8809 |
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Been thinking and came to the conclusion that Rockstar is correct.
Let me give an example why. Denmark and Sweden has lost almost 90 % of their domestic, foreign and economic policy to EU. I guess Texas is more independent than these two countries. Markus
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10-03-21, 03:04 PM | #8810 | |
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10-03-21, 03:47 PM | #8811 | |
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https://www.aier.org/article/who-del...m-its-website/
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10-03-21, 03:54 PM | #8812 |
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^ American Institute for Economic Research?
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10-03-21, 05:20 PM | #8813 |
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Hypothetical new strain -> which can evade existing immunizations -> means end of herd immunity.
Likely example: Mu. It is known to have significantly higher resistence against existing vaccines, and creates a multiple times as high virus load in the infected than earlier strains. Infected thus can infect others much more easily. Herd immunity depends on the reproduction value of a given virus strain. With Sars-Cov-II, these vary, early strains had lower R values than later ones. Thats why the vaccination quota needed for herd immunity was calculated higher and higher, actually it must be even higher than calcuated because the calculation assumes a 100% efficiency of the vaccines, and that is not given. And this just assumes the new strain still are vulenrable for vaccination effects/immunity effects. If the viorus turns to become able to dodge existing antibody, the game starts new. Thats why it is important to keep infectous activity in the wild as low as possible. By vaccination, which accelerates the process. The less opportunity the virus has to play around, the smaller the chance it learns a new trick to dodge existing immunization. There are many virusses that constantly change, and for which therefore no herd immunity exists, or will ever exist.
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10-03-21, 05:24 PM | #8814 |
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And Rockstar, that article spills over from simpyl false claims. For example that BionTech vaccine expose the immune system to the virus as if an unvaccinated person would meet the virus in the wild, by getting infected. Thats exactly how mRNA vaccines (and vector vaccines as well) DO NOT WORK. Wiuth mRNA vaccines it is no virus at all, and with vector vaccines it is deactivated (="dead") virus.
That author has not medical facts. What he has, is an agenda to mislead people and spill oil into a fire to keep it burning.
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10-03-21, 05:37 PM | #8815 |
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False beliefs can cost your or someone near you life.
No your authorities in your country is not trying to lie to you. Markus
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10-03-21, 06:07 PM | #8816 |
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If an economist told you that water is wet, would you laugh at that, too? If the WHO changed their website, it doesn't really matter who points it out. Even if the part about how the vaccines work is incorrect, they are still sweeping facts under the rug. The statement that "Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it." is simply not true. It is a well known fact that herd immunity can be achieved by exposure. Otherwise, humanity would have probably gone extinct long, long ago. Obviously developing an immunity without getting sick is preferable. And the vaccines can do that. There's also a non-zero chance they can make you extremely ill. There is no [good] reason to distort the truth. It certainly isn't going to change the mind of an "anti-vaxxer". All it does is erode trust, and I think that's the opposite of the desired effect.
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10-03-21, 10:16 PM | #8817 | |
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The NYT's Partisan Tale about COVID and the Unvaccinated is Rife with Sloppy Data Analysis
The Times' piece on "Red Covid" obscures the reality of the pandemic and manipulates data in favor of a self-congratulatory liberalism. https://outsidevoices.substack.com/p...le-about-covid Quote:
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10-04-21, 12:25 PM | #8818 |
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10-04-21, 12:29 PM | #8819 |
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10-04-21, 12:39 PM | #8820 | |
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