Soldier balks at deploying; says Obama isn’t president

[Neptunus Rex]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

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I got the hope.

YOU get the change!

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

there has always been political and monetary connections with the saudis.

but in this case, we have a saudi prince saying "we want Obama in the white house... pay whatever price necessary to put him there" and then making it so.

i wonder how much DIRECT cash towards campaign finance came from nations that are our enemies.

it is the most masterful infiltration of American government in history.

want to hurt someone - hit em in the wallet...

Mission objective one of the Saudi Agent in the white house - destroy the economy.

Mission objective one - accomplished

Have you anything at all to back this up with?

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Have you anything at all to back this up with?

E-mail chains! The new substitute for facts!

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Have you anything at all to back this up with?

this is strictly opinion... it will remain so until proven to be fact.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Honestly, I don't understand this continued insistence that Obama is not a U.S. citizen. Is it possible? Maybe. Is it even remotely probable? No.

Closet communists though they may be, I seriously doubt that the Democratic Party would, at any level, knowingly endorse a non-US citizen because he was being bankrolled by the Saudis or OPEC or anybody else for that matter. I mean, why even bother? It would be a ludicrously dangerous move in the political sense, and it isn't as if there's a shortage of muslim orators and politicians with anti-American agendas who were actually born in the U.S. What on God's green earth could the Dems possibly have to gain from installing such a man in office?
I think this whole thing is exactly what it appears to be, and nothing more. Obama may be a socialist weasel, but he's not part of some vast conspiracy to.....whatever.......

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I'm going to point out the truly outrageous thing here; A U.S. military officer shirking his duty in time of war, displaying cowardice, and undermining the Commander-in-Chief and the entire chain of command. Last time I checked, that was treason, and it doesn't matter if he thinks the CinC is legitimate or not. This man has had plenty of time to resign his commission and seek administrative seperation, which he evidently did not.

I think cases like this are a sad commentary on the state of the U.S. military in general. Imo, it is high time we reformed the military's manpower base and recruiting doctrine into something more befitting a professional soldiery. Ours can hardly be an armed force characterized by "consummate professionalism" when it is comprised in part of ASVAB waivers, criminal background waivers, would-be community college alumni, and politicians in uniform.

The U.S. military is an all-volunteer force, and because of that it is more professional and competent than conscription-based militaries, but we need to take the next logical step and create an all-professional force.
We do not need more troops so much as we need troops who are better qualified and equipped for modern high and low-intensity theatres of operation. We have spent too much time already fighting the last war with the last army. The wars of the present and the future demand more specialized and qualified combat professionals. Our dogmatic insistence upon attempting to match the enemy man for man may work sometimes, but it is a costly endeavour in terms of lives on both sides. The chicken**** major in the OP may not concern some people, but that jackass could easily get a whole platoon killed or cause a civilian massacre because he is a coward. Men and women like him should never even be given the opportunity to serve.

My feeling is that the U.S. military needs much stricter entry requirements and training, and a pay-scale befitting those requirements. Other incentives, like money for college, are fine so long as the beneficiaries understand that they are in a system where they are soldiers first and students second. Above all, they need to understand that they are sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States even at the cost of their lives, and they need to be willing to accept that responsibility at all times. Of course, it is difficult to ascertain the motives of any person, whatever they may swear to, hence the stricter training requirements, which serve to dissuade the half-hearted and the opportunistic.

Whatever you may think of the legitimacy of Obama's presidency, this particular major does not have a case in any circumstance, nor do many like him. War is an ugly business to be sure, but that does not excuse a soldier from his obligation to conduct himself properly when duty requires it.

A tip of the hat to you for a very fine post!

Why is Mr. Obama fighting the release of documents in court? Confusing, ain't it?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

Why is Mr. Obama fighting the release of documents in court? Confusing, ain't it?

Is he? Link?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

Why is Mr. Obama fighting the release of documents in court? Confusing, ain't it?

usually when one does this it means there is something to hide.

I feel that he probably listed Nigeria or some other place as his place of birth on some official document.

personally, i dont know what to think of the citizenship issue... i feel that if official records have been shown that he is a US Citizen then it is not even worth discussion... however, the man has something major to hide.

[Platapus]

I would like to see Cook's bio to see if he pulled crap like before.

For all I know, Cook may just be a coward who peed his pants when he got orders to a combat zone

We had this happen during the first gulf war too. 99.99% of Reservists honourably served their country but there were a few who just wanted the perks of reserve duty but none of the responsibility. We saw some pretty imaginative excuses, including claims that the first gulf war was also illegal.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

Why is Mr. Obama fighting the release of documents in court? Confusing, ain't it?

There's a difference between a court throwing out the case and Obama fighting it.

Originally Posted by Max2147

There's a difference between a court throwing out the case and Obama fighting it.

Hundreds of thousands of dollars suppressing the issue. This time a judge is willing to hear the case. Nothing to fear, Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

Hundreds of thousands of dollars suppressing the issue. This time a judge is willing to hear the case. Nothing to fear, Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

Tchocky already asked you for a link. You haven't provided one. What are you hiding? You must have something to hide - you haven't given us what we wanted immediately!

And even if you provide a link, we'll say it's not good enough and demand you provide a more credible and comprehensive link. You'll get tired of the issue and move on to more important things, but we'll stay here and insist that you have no credibility until you supply us with that link we're demanding.

Actually, that's sort of fun. I can see why you conspiracy theory wonks get off on this so much.

Originally Posted by Max2147

Tchocky already asked you for a link. You haven't provided one. What are you hiding? You must have something to hide - you haven't given us what we wanted immediately!

And even if you provide a link, we'll say it's not good enough and demand you provide a more credible and comprehensive link. You'll get tired of the issue and move on to more important things, but we'll stay here and insist that you have no credibility until you supply us with that link we're demanding.

Actually, that's sort of fun. I can see why you conspiracy theory wonks get off on this so much.

I don't think it is up to me to prove anything with any link. Seems to be a staight forward question.

Release the documents. I think a POTUS can do that., no?

Hundreds of thousands of dollars suppressing the issue. This time a judge is willing to hear the case. Nothing to fear, Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

[geetrue]

It use to be a rule ... if you have a thought you have a thought,
but if you have news you have a link

Hundreds of thousands of dollars suppressing the issue

According to conspiracy nuts