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Old 10-15-07, 04:15 PM   #61
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I'm about to take my agreement back.
Oops, sorry Monolith, just a bit of fun.
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Old 10-15-07, 04:18 PM   #62
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Well I'm over the moon about the inclusion of a U-boat element in SH4. I like SH4 as a game, its beautiful to behold and the times I have played it, I enjoyed, apart from them ridiculous bugs it has... Which can grind one down after a time.

U-boats in SH4, I wonder if you will get an option to play them? though my main interest in SH4 will be seeing them bugs fixed.
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Old 10-15-07, 04:18 PM   #63
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Personally, I'd love to run a U-Boat in the Indian ocean. I'd have to learn about what the real ones did,.
Uboat.net has a bit on the ole monsoon boats

http://uboat.net/ops/monsun.htm
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Old 10-15-07, 04:25 PM   #64
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Well I'm over the moon about the inclusion of a U-boat element in SH4. I like SH4 as a game, its beautiful to behold and the times I have played it, I enjoyed, apart from them ridiculous bugs it has... Which can grind one down after a time.

U-boats in SH4, I wonder if you will get an option to play them? though my main interest in SH4 will be seeing them bugs fixed.
I do think this is a good point! The bugs is a BIG thing.
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Old 10-15-07, 04:26 PM   #65
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I'm taking whatever their giving...
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Old 10-15-07, 04:28 PM   #66
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Truthfully I prefer the Atlantic, however, I'm not aversed to have a dabble with SH4. I do think the U-boats are better in terms of you are the underdog, you know, no matter what you are going to lose... and I think that is a cool twist in a game as with games you play, you expect to win don't you? You can't win at SH3 its not possible. All you can do is survive.

This add on could well pave the way for some awesome stuff, who is to say.
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Old 10-15-07, 04:33 PM   #67
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The world will be our ocean! After all, it was a global conflict. Imagine if you would, all SH3 with the SH4 engine. Years of enjoyment, modding and playing.
Well I am ready for my heaping plate of crow! No, really aside from the 1.04 fixes this alleged patch will fix.......the rest is hard to judge....but the possibilities sure look good in an optimistic way.

I will still keep my current install as is and a add a second install! Like I said previously my current install is very, very good!

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Old 10-15-07, 04:36 PM   #68
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^^^ where we can historically never fire a shot in anger?

Not my cup of tea

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Don't think there will ever be a cold war era sub sim entirely for that reason.
Well, I hate to tell you this; but this forum is dedicated to submarine simulation fans and to miss out on the entire Cold-War era of electro/diesel and Nuclear subs would be criminal to any serious subsim fan! There are subs out in the oceans of the world right now, conducting war games and I assure you the danger is pretty f*%ing real to them!
Don't get me wrong would be interesting to see a Cold War Era subsim (I've got K19 on DVD the early Nuclear boats are very interesting even if a little dangerous!). I don't think there is enough there though to sustain a sim of a period that didn't see any 'hot' naval war.

Modern subsims get away with the 'what if' scenarios because, as they are usually set in the very near future they don't spoil the atmosphere with the knowledge that the cold war never turned hot.
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Old 10-15-07, 04:39 PM   #69
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First let me say it is a crying shame and a travisty that 'someone' leaked this. In my eyes they betrayed a trust and should be ashamed of their actions like a little child.

Phew... now that is off my chest.

The dev's probably made the best decision as to model Uboats in lieu of other boats.

They open intrest to some players who like the Uboats so had no interest in SH4.

Now you can have your cake and eat it too. Uboats with awsome graphics.

Lets see how the game play is.

I also hope that they paid as much attention to the bugs as they did to adding content.

Lastley I end with a question.

How much ?

Is this going to be a payware addittion or a labor of love ?
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Old 10-15-07, 04:42 PM   #70
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I have not look lately on how many gigs I got in this game. The sound files,
the MOD ROW, "thanks this is classic" ,TM 1.6+, the "J" man ,the patches , all the forums,all the backups of DVDS of stuff that I got are way COOL
All this just because of a crappy first press of the game disk. Thank's UBI.
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Old 10-15-07, 04:48 PM   #71
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Lastley I end with a question.

How much ?

Is this going to be a payware addittion or a labor of love ?

labor of love? we are talking about Ubisoft after all.

I would guess $ 19.99, download only.

then in a few months, they will package it into SH4 and resell it as SH4 GOLD for $ 49.99.
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Old 10-15-07, 04:53 PM   #72
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Well if you have playable uboats in SH4 then bye bye SH3 modders . Welcome to SH4 . More sales of SH4 for UBi .
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Old 10-15-07, 04:54 PM   #73
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Modern subsims get away with the 'what if' scenarios because, as they are usually set in the very near future they don't spoil the atmosphere with the knowledge that the cold war never turned hot.
Well, I'm ashamed to say that I didn't think of this. I retract my idea to limit SH5 to the Cold-War. As you've hinted at, a near future theoretical campaign could be what we need, a Red Storm Rising like scenario anyone? I just wanted to see a sim incorporating Post WW II diesel/electric subs and some of the early Nukes, including the odd reactor leak and everything!
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Old 10-15-07, 04:57 PM   #74
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I see it. I'd just rather see more attention being focussed on the Pacific. Was stuck in the grimy interior of a clunky little Type VII for six years. I want the luv for the USN fleet boats to have priority in the game that was supposed to be theirs.
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Old 10-15-07, 05:12 PM   #75
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Modern subsims get away with the 'what if' scenarios because, as they are usually set in the very near future they don't spoil the atmosphere with the knowledge that the cold war never turned hot.
Well, I'm ashamed to say that I didn't think of this. I retract my idea to limit SH5 to the Cold-War. As you've hinted at, a near future theoretical campaign could be what we need, a Red Storm Rising like scenario anyone? I just wanted to see a sim incorporating Post WW II diesel/electric subs and some of the early Nukes, including the odd reactor leak and everything!
Now that idea certainly has legs

Many scenarios to be played out here:

1. A resurgent Russian fleet backs up an increasingly agressive foreign policy. Maybe Russia attempts to take control of the Arctic Ocean so as to exploit natural resources. Imagine sub to sub combat under the Ice!

2. China attempts to control the pacific with an enlarged fleet of SSN's.

3. Iran tries to force US from Arabian Gulf with her KIlo class subs etc.

And thats just three off the top of my head linked to RL events and developments in the world.
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