Afghanistan deadline

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The argument is made since long that "patriotism" focusses predominantly on a quality of "loving one's own peer group and its culture and living place", where as nationalism more defines itself by aggressively keeping separate from the foreign people and maintaining kind of a hostile attitude towards others that are not one's own peer group that one identifies with - this could lead as far as to violently wanting to eradicate the identiy of the other by wiping him and his nation out. So the one focusses more on preferring or loving one's own group, the other focusses on being hostile towards the others, the foreign country.



Personally I use the phrase "historically grown sense of identity" since long. It makes more sense to me, is closer to what the human focus is about, and seems to match realities on the ground more often. I can tolerate patriots, get along with them. With nationalists I see nothing but problems.



For these reasons I can still be against the EU and what it wants to achieve in identity ideology - and still not feeling affected when somenbody accuses me that therefore I must be a nationalist. I am not.



And if I would plan to become one, I first would prefer to change my German nationality.

I found it kinda ironic when another poster tried to differentiate between 'tribalism' and 'nationalism' as if there was a vast difference between the two.

[mapuc]

And the Taliban failed

Since the fall of Kabul on Aug. 15, the Panjshir has been the only province to hold out against the Taliban, although there has also been fighting in neighbouring Baghlan province between Taliban and local militia forces.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...ay-2021-08-31/

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Afghanistan LIVE updates: Taliban says it has surrounded resistance fighters in Panjshir, calls for peace

https://indianexpress.com/article/wo...dates-7481309/

[Arlo]

Further clarification, in case:

FACT CHECK: Several Republican Senators and Congressmen spread this vile LIE on Facebook over the weekend. CORRECT THE RECORD! "To correct erroneous reports, the U.S. Military did NOT leave any dogs in cages at Hamid Karzai International Airport, including the reported military working dogs. Photos circulating online were animals under the care of the Kabul Small Animal Rescue, not dogs under our care," a Pentagon spokesman said in a tweet.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Further clarification, in case:

FACT CHECK: Several Republican Senators and Congressmen spread this vile LIE on Facebook over the weekend. CORRECT THE RECORD! "To correct erroneous reports, the U.S. Military did NOT leave any dogs in cages at Hamid Karzai International Airport, including the reported military working dogs. Photos circulating online were animals under the care of the Kabul Small Animal Rescue, not dogs under our care," a Pentagon spokesman said in a tweet.

A technical truth is still a lie. Supporting the US mission. Paid by the USG - this administration is still fully responsible.

[mapuc]

Isn't dogs an unclean animal in Islam ?

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Nationalism is not evil. Nationalism would do a place like Afghanistan some good. A people’s loyalty to one nation, one flag, one form of government. Unfortunately it is and has been for many centuries ruled by dozens of tribal warlords killing the other because of their ‘identity-ism’.

Tribalism is deeply engrained in human nature nationalism and established cultural norms IMO is a bond that brings these tribes together. Like anything it can used or abused.

Way I see it Nationalism is just an artificial version of Tribalism and both exist for the same exact and numerous reasons. Larger multi ethnic nations like us and the ChiComs, Russians, etc, keep many tribes under one "roof" as it were but the struggle is always to provide a social glue stronger than what is found naturally in a tribe. No nation can exist unless it's tribes are united or at least most of them are.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

A technical truth is still a lie. Supporting the US mission. Paid by the USG - this administration is still fully responsible.

Nope. But you keep on trying, ok?

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...ghanistan.html

[Dowly]

They're dogs ffs.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Dowly

They're dogs ffs.

Some people care about dogs.

[mapuc]

Now I ask you

Who's most dangerous !
Donald Trump
or
Taliban leaders

When some of you have posted your comment I will tell you why I asked.

Markus

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Now I ask you

Who's most dangerous !
Donald Trump
or
Taliban leaders

When some of you have posted your comment I will tell you why I asked.

Markus

Dangerous to whom?

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Dangerous to whom?

Don't know

Maybe I should reveal the reason

Twitter has as you know closed Trumps account but the Taliban leaders can post their belief on twitter.

Can't say if Trump is dangerous to the American people and to the rest of the world, but letting Islamic fanatics have free access is wrong.

Markus

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Don't know

Maybe I should reveal the reason

Twitter has as you know closed Trumps account but the Taliban leaders can post their belief on twitter.

Can't say if Trump is dangerous to the American people and to the rest of the world, but letting Islamic fanatics have free access is wrong.

Markus

Get back to me when Islamic fanatics attack the capital intending to kill most of congress so they can place their chief imam in the oval office.

[Otto Harkaman]

Trump "now I can post on twitter"