Bush and the Geneva Convention

[The Noob]

European Soldier: Take Cover! *Hides under Bench*
American Soldier: Look, i'm at war on Terror! *Stands up and whinks his embedded Journalist Camera* *BOOM!* Dead...

Really Great Alternatives...

[The Avon Lady]

Kiwi, oldies but goodies.

Courtesy of The Mudville Gazette:

• Somewhere out there the gods of law are laughing their heads off.
  
  Soon, in a combat theater near you, the 82nd Airborne will be dropped into combat against terrorists. Additional aircraft will drop into combat the 666th Combat Defense Attorney Brigade (the legendary C-DABS). As each trooper in the 82nd lines up a shot at a terrorist aiming at him, one set of the 666th CDAB attorneys will file a motion with the Combat Field Judge asserting that the trooper is about to violate the rights of the jihadist at whom he is aiming. The trooper’s counsel will point out the imminent danger faced by his client and will assert “self defense” - meanwhile, the jihadist is blazing away at the trooper, ignoring the temporary injunction papers being waved at him by the Combat Marshal.
  
  Other members of the terrorist group are gunning down members of the 666th Brigade as they try to present their business cards and establish an attorney-client relationship. Eventually the terrorists run out of ammunition only to discover that their AK-47s have not come close to being able to damage the American military as will the legal system about to invoked on their behalf by American law.
  
  CDAB deaths will always be high, but given the ever-increasing number of American law schools cranking out an endless stream of unnecessary attorneys looking for work, the losses will be quickly replaced.

Take it from me, an Israeli mother, with friends whose husbands and children have been in combat duty in the IDF over the last 20 years, that the above scenario (barring the disposable lawyers) is not a joke. There have been numerous situations where IDF personnel have died or been injured because of fears of repercussions and confusion in abiding by the IDF's absurd code of ethics, compiled and frozen into law by local leftwing liberal professor Asaf Kasher, who I would like to have parachuted into Lebanon a month or 2 ago.

You've been warned. Learn from the experience of others. It's free!

Originally Posted by The Noob

European Soldier: Take Cover! *Hides under Bench*

Welcome to Fwance!

"It's deja vu all over again! - Yogi Berra

[Immacolata]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Take it from me, an Israeli mother, with friends whose husbands and children have been in combat duty in the IDF over the last 20 years, that the above scenario (barring the disposable lawyers) is not a joke. There have been numerous situations where IDF personnel have died or been injured because of fears of repercussions and confusion in abiding by the IDF's absurd code of ethics, compiled and frozen into law by local leftwing liberal professor Asaf Kasher, who I would like to have parachuted into Lebanon a month or 2 ago.

You've been warned. Learn from the experience of others. It's free!

And it looks as if it is getting more dangerous, too.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Immacolata

And it looks as if it is getting more dangerous, too.

I read that elsewhere yesterday but that has nothing to do with this thread's subject. There is no lack of discussion locally on Israel's fiascos in this past summer's war. Some were so blatant that anyone on the street could have easily pointed them out.

[Immacolata]

Ah, sorry for the threadjacking. I for one was upset that the offensive didn't go too well. No one can live with Hisbollah as a "neighbour". But they are still there, alas. And I do believe they are not entitled to protection under the geneva convention due to the way they fight (trying to get back on track).

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Perilscope

I love this one... so based on facts

That is so spot on.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Perilscope

I love this one... so based on facts

More cartoons at MidEast Truth.

[Oberon]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Spot on!

I like this one:

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I like this one:

Get serious.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by STEED

That is so spot on.

Today, in the news.....

Don't miss the video link toward the article's end. Simply disgusting.

[bradclark1]

Today, in the news.....

So much for fighting for their people!!!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

The Geneva Convention was designed, and can only be applied, with conventional armies in mind.

It does not cover terrorists and should not cover terrorists.

You want to earn the rights of the Geneva Convention? Then raise a standing army.

Have you read the Geneva Convention Brad? Why don't you count how may violations terrorists commit. I've stopped at 32 after it got too repetitive and boring: General Provisions lots of violations, General protection of POWs more violations, subsequent parts violated by default, Religious, intellectual and hpysical activities, discipline, etc. it's all violated. Everything from then onwards is violated. And a terrorist group is no legitimate "Party" because they do not recognize the right of the other side to exist.

The CIA can do as they please with terrorists. Had CIA agents been captured by Jihadists, they would not even think about applying the Geneva Convention to them, as they didn't with the hostages (violation) captures who were beheaved (violation), forced to convert to Islam(violation), deprived of physical, intellectual and religious activities (violation, violation, violation).

You want to know what's right and what's wrong? It's wrong to release a terrorist and all information about him if that's an advantage to terror cells. And it is right to lock him in a hole without sunbathing and use psychological torture on him if that serves to prevent another 3000 direct and how many more indirect victims of a terror attack plus their main goal of political victory.

The Hizbullah is sponsored by Iran...

One tiny bit of legality better be thrown in here. The fact that Bush declared war on them means he should probably abide by the GC. This gave Bush special powers by declaring war since if he did not, then the 9/11 happanings would be a police matter only. So there is a fine a line to be walked.

-S

[SkvyWvr]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Today, in the news.....

Don't miss the video link toward the article's end. Simply disgusting.

Disgusting isn't enough. Such brave soliders of Islam.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by SkvyWvr

Disgusting isn't enough. Such brave soliders of Islam.

Perhaps I am the only one here, but seems to me the guy is just bringing the boy to a save spot.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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One tiny bit of legality better be thrown in here. The fact that Bush declared war on them means he should probably abide by the GC. This gave Bush special powers by declaring war since if he did not, then the 9/11 happanings would be a police matter only. So there is a fine a line to be walked.

-S

Actual real war was not declared.