First imported model: Vosper - Page 4

Kpt. Lehmann · 09-29-05, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sergbuto

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Does this tool allow you to fix or substitute a reflection for the Type II sub?

Maybe. I do not know exactly. I have not looked at that.

Sergbuto, if you find a way to fix that and release it as a mod... I will swim to Sweden and mow your grass with scissors.

....While singing "Uber Alles" and wearing lederhosen.

Letum · 09-29-05, 04:29 PM

*gets out 3d max*
Bloody good work - give me the plans and I will make any model u want

Hunterbear · 09-29-05, 07:03 PM

Hi Sergbuto,

Thanks for the replys to all the questions.

Does anyone recommend a source for good 3 view drawings or decent 3 view photos for various ships of that era we can model for SH3. Most of the stuff I find on the net is not satisfactory to use. I guess I'll have to check out the local library for books.

Thank you again for this great piece of work!

Happy hunting!

Incendiary Lemon · 09-29-05, 08:57 PM

Maybe just woot?

Anyone

AG124 · 09-30-05, 08:57 AM

There are a few diagrams and photos on this page which may be helpful to someone.

http://warships.web4u.cz/staty.php?language=E

No merchants here though.

VON_CAPO · 09-30-05, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunterbear

Does anyone recommend a source for good 3 view drawings or decent 3 view photos for various ships of that era we can model for SH3. Most of the stuff I find on the net is not satisfactory to use. I guess I'll have to check out the local library for books.

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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO

By the way, take a look to this site http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/.
There is many 3D models and blueprints :|\

Check that out

Sansal · 09-30-05, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeadler

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Originally Posted by sergbuto

The tool limitation is that each 3D object can use/have a reference to only one texture plate, as already mentioned by Sansal.

That's the problem, I need for my historic subpens more than one texture map per model

But I will give it a try with one tiled 1024x1024 texture this weekend

You can use a 2048 x 2048 texture or any size that you need.

Argus · 09-30-05, 02:38 PM

Wow - that's giving SHIII a whole new perspective! Awesome work, sergbuto!

Cpt Haddock · 09-30-05, 06:27 PM

sergbuto thats brilliant, which tools do you use too import/export the models with by Sansal, and what 3d rendering package do you use??

sergbuto · 09-30-05, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpt Haddock

sergbuto, which tools do you use too import/export the models with by Sansal, and what 3d rendering package do you use??

Wings3D and Sansal's tool.

Sulikate · 09-30-05, 07:08 PM

I'm stunnished

I'll put my 3dsmax to work now!!!!

Sansal · 09-30-05, 09:18 PM

http://rapidshare.de/files/5729597/Pack3D.jar.html

Copy in sh3 folder....tomorrow the manual

oRGy · 10-01-05, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sergbuto

If I remember correctly the model has about 74000 polys.

Congrats for releasing the first model, but I assume you noticed in the "SH3 devs want mods" thread that it says:

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The developers have sent word through the Subsim.com grapevine that they are putting the call out to the mod community for high-quality mods and 3D models for possible inclusion in a future version of the game. Here are the restrictions for 3D models:

For ships and planes, these are the restrictions:

Battleships - 35,000 poly

Destroyers - 25,000 poly

Merchants:

- 10,000 poly - small

- 15,000 poly - medium

- 20,000 poly - large

Planes - 3,500-4,000 poly

In this context, 74000 is too much and will result in extreme framerate chugging with more than one or two on screen.

In my experience it's always better to create detail with texture-mapping and using the polys for basic structure.

Sorry if that sounds negative or anything! Just some people might not be aware of this.

sergbuto · 10-01-05, 08:24 AM

Sure. Go ahead and follow Devs instructions on this matter, I do not mind. And I will follow experience, results of testing, what my computer can handle and what I like after all.

If people followed the Devs instructions to the letter for SH2 and DC at the time, the games would still have only crappy models.

AG124 · 10-01-05, 09:01 AM

Those poly counts from the Dev team do not seem reasonable to me - If a Battleship can have 35000, then shouldn't a freighter work with the same amount. They probably had different reasons fot those limits. I would prefer more detailed models, as long as they don't slow down my computer (the models in SH2 were not really detailed enough). Of course, I might not know what I'm talking about at all...

There were a couple of models from SH2, that I did like a little, such as the Troop Transport, Slow Cargo, and Oil Tanker. Can these be imported with Sansal's tool? Also, some of the others could have more details added and then be imported.

09-29-05, 04:29 PM	#47
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	gets out 3d max Bloody good work - give me the plans and I will make any model u want __________________

09-30-05, 02:38 PM	#53
Argus Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Duesseldorf Posts: 14 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wow - that's giving SHIII a whole new perspective! Awesome work, sergbuto! __________________ -- Tutorial, Tipps & Tricks in Deutsch zu Dangerous Waters: http://www.space-port.de/dw/

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Sulikate Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Korea Posts: 834 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I'm stunnished I'll put my 3dsmax to work now!!!! __________________ Se flutua e não fala quack, afunde-o!

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sergbuto Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,331 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Sure. Go ahead and follow Devs instructions on this matter, I do not mind. And I will follow experience, results of testing, what my computer can handle and what I like after all. If people followed the Devs instructions to the letter for SH2 and DC at the time, the games would still have only crappy models. __________________ Serg's SH4 and SH3 pages

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09-29-05, 07:03 PM	#48
Hunterbear A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: California, USA Posts: 72 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Hi Sergbuto, Thanks for the replys to all the questions. Does anyone recommend a source for good 3 view drawings or decent 3 view photos for various ships of that era we can model for SH3. Most of the stuff I find on the net is not satisfactory to use. I guess I'll have to check out the local library for books. Thank you again for this great piece of work! Happy hunting!

09-29-05, 08:57 PM	#49
Incendiary Lemon Watch Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe just woot? Anyone

09-30-05, 08:57 AM	#50
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	There are a few diagrams and photos on this page which may be helpful to someone. http://warships.web4u.cz/staty.php?language=E No merchants here though.

09-30-05, 06:27 PM	#54
Cpt Haddock Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 14 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	sergbuto thats brilliant, which tools do you use too import/export the models with by Sansal, and what 3d rendering package do you use??

09-30-05, 09:18 PM	#57
Sansal Electrician's Mate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 133 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	http://rapidshare.de/files/5729597/Pack3D.jar.html Copy in sh3 folder....tomorrow the manual

10-01-05, 09:01 AM	#60
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Those poly counts from the Dev team do not seem reasonable to me - If a Battleship can have 35000, then shouldn't a freighter work with the same amount. They probably had different reasons fot those limits. I would prefer more detailed models, as long as they don't slow down my computer (the models in SH2 were not really detailed enough). Of course, I might not know what I'm talking about at all... There were a couple of models from SH2, that I did like a little, such as the Troop Transport, Slow Cargo, and Oil Tanker. Can these be imported with Sansal's tool? Also, some of the others could have more details added and then be imported.