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Old 02-18-15, 05:17 PM   #46
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It's a good point, but it's almost certain that the people who will be going will be from that privileged group that most of us belong to.
not only that, but i think few people appreciate the fact that the human body is being removed from its protective womb that is planet earth, and strictly relying on technology, stubbornness and ingenuity - the human - will attempt to survive in a completely alien environment, with no escape, no room for error.

Whether one man gets his breakfast by milking cows and snatching chicken eggs and the other man gets his breakfast at the local 50s style diner makes no difference - BOTH of these men have 75% of the things they need to survive just by occupying space on this planet.

transplant both of these men onto Mars and they essentially have 0% of the things they need to survive... they will be responsible for everything - even the processes that mother nature takes care of here on earth they will be responsible for emulating.
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Old 02-18-15, 05:26 PM   #47
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A 1000 mile path begins with the first step.
We have to start somehow, by someone. And some need no other reason than ''it's there''.
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A 1000 mile path begins with the first step.
We have to start somehow, by someone. And some need no other reason than ''it's there''.
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Damn, can't think of a meme.

People voluntered to go up there and let's get them there even if I have got out and push.
Missed the Moon landings and I'm not dying until someone lands on Mars.
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Haven't read in detail how they will be prepared

I do hope that in their preparedness they will be send to some desert where they shall live like it was on Mars..which mean they will first get response after so and so many hours a.s.o

And they shall stay there for a year...

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Damn, can't think of a meme.
The Chinese already done this long ago.
All they were missing was Pay Per View.

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Haven't read in detail how they will be prepared

I do hope that in their preparedness they will be send to some desert where they shall live like it was on Mars..which mean they will first get response after so and so many hours a.s.o

And they shall stay there for a year...

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Makes sense, although they'd probably be better off in Antarctica, Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids, in fact it's cold as hell.
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Makes sense, although they'd probably be better off in Antarctica, Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids, in fact it's cold as hell.

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Makes sense, although they'd probably be better off in Antarctica, Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids, in fact it's cold as hell.
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Haven't read in detail how they will be prepared

I do hope that in their preparedness they will be send to some desert where they shall live like it was on Mars..which mean they will first get response after so and so many hours a.s.o

And they shall stay there for a year...

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their web site has all that information on it.

for the time being they are going to train on exact replicas of the habitats and pods and equipment in a desert location - i think the site said they are going to build possibly as many as 5 sites globally to train crews

"Simulation Post Alpha" they will call it

here is a CGI concept image

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If they start planting crops, they could let nature terra-form it for them.
Or would that be Marsa-forming?
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If they start planting crops, they could let nature terra-form it for them.
Or would that be Marsa-forming?
You'd need to do some work first, if you just planted some wheat into the Martian soil it would whither and die very quickly.
First stage you'd need to grow crops inside a special bio-sphere, however if you genetically modify things like lichen and moss, then that can begin the slow process of terraforming Mars. After that it's a case of trying to heat up the atmosphere...asteroids will help, or comets, depending on how much water you can get from a comet into the atmosphere. Recent research has called into question just how much water is received from comets crashing into a planet.
Honestly, you probably wouldn't be able to grow vanilla Earth crops on Mars for at least a millennia.
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Drop the nuclear heat generators onto the polar caps - you would get CO2 and water. That and a simple delivered biosystem would terraform Mars in a few milenia.
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