Russian Bear T-95 Bombers provoke Dutch and UK Airspace

[Castout]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Oooohh there are ways.

The IRST and TV systems on jets like the old Tomcat come to mind, they had ranges of over 5 km easy. Also they are doing wonderful things with ISAR systems now. They can tell the differences in the air frame. If the Bear lights up its radar they will know for sure.

But I'm leaning to the camp that these were Bear-Hs like they sent near Alaska not to long ago unless someone shows a picture of these that proves otherwise.

Anyways I'm not too worried about it. You can see a Bear coming from a long distance away so our pilots can intercept any missile attack from it, unless its got a substantial escort (that would send up a red flag on my Radar so to speak).

Umm I think you're missing the point . To identify something one needs to send assets (intercepting aircrafts) even if the Bear had turned on its radar to gain positive visual id and to escort it out of the violated airspace. The period between detection of the T-95 from the radar blip to confirming which variant it is would still have caused distress .

Netherlands is a small country I could imagine heightened alert to its government officials if they are told that one or two bear is flying over their city at the moment . Bear equates with strategic bomber payload if not nuclear ones.


I'd worry too if a foreign heavy bomber happened to fly over my city without authorization or declaration whatsoever even in times of peace.
Heck even if it was just a Malaysian Hornet fighter bomber which flew above the city.

[Krauter]

How can you tell which aircraft is delivering the fuel? (in a side by side arrangement like that?)

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by krashkart

Dude, I am so sorry. That Flashlight came out of nowhere... it was a real Blinder.

Your intentions seem to have Backfired. That must be a real Helix......oh crap, I messed up. Can I start over?

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Your intentions seem to have Backfired. That must be a real Helix......oh crap, I messed up. Can I start over?

Flankers

@Castout, indeed NL is a relatively small country, however it's airspace does extend out into the North Sea so just because an aeroplane infringed it's airspace doesn't mean it's going to drop a conventional load on Utrecht or Arnhem. An aircraft unidentified by radar could be so much more than some malicious intruder, and like I've said previously - this is a game that has been played out for many decades, I think the pilots just see it as routine training nowadays but with the ability to do something if it changes from routine.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Flankers .

Who you callin' a Flanker, you Fagot-Flogger?

[Herr-Berbunch]

Enough of this Hokum!

[TLAM Strike]

Hay we have to keep this forum going one way or another otherwise Moss will begin growing on it...

[krashkart]

I raise this Flagon as a toast to... oh forget it. I am too much of an Atoll to toast to anything right now.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Don't be so Candid you old Coot, you ain't so Hip for a Midget Hoodlum, you can't even drink a Flagon of Badger piss or a Firkin of Fiddler juice.

Oops, my Halo has slipped. Time for a glass of, wait for it....


Coca-COALER!

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Don't be so Candid you old Coot, you ain't so Hip for a Midget Hoodlum, you can't even drink a Flagon of Badger piss or a Firkin of Fiddler juice.

Oops, my Halo has slipped. Time for a glass of, wait for it....


Coca-COALER!

HAAAAY-YOOHHH!!

*applause*

[Tchocky]

Could have had loads to tell you guys about this had it not been my day off

Dammit!

[Oberon]

I come out of the Kitchen for this? I guess I'd better put the Koala back in the Kennel before it Grumbles and becomes a Gremlin.

[UnderseaLcpl]

I don't mean to Harp on you Oberon, but in Hind sight you should have expected as much from this bunch. I fear this is the Apex of our humour. Might as well Kickback and enjoy.

[Growler]

My ADA senses are going into overload.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I fear this is the Apex of our humour.

Sorry Charlie but as sure as my Papa wrote a 'damn Yankee' on his Tomb Stone we can keep this Havoc going till November when there will be nothing left but Ash.