[REL] OhioSSBN mod for Silent Hunter IV - Page 4

lothos · 03-09-09, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thyro

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Originally Posted by lothos

Oh, when firing torps from deep they like to jump out of the water before traveling to the targets

That happen on TMR... have u installed Ohio on top of TMR? Cheers

no, have never tried TM. folling around in multi with a friend

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OhioSSBN

the ohio at faster than 15 knots has trouble rising to any set depth and actually graduating the ascent.

Kaye T. Bai · 03-09-09, 01:46 PM

One question, with the Ohio-class SSBN installed, the periscope models used for the Ohio-class SSBN are used with every other submarine in the game, original and community-made. Is there a plan to fix this in further releases?

tomagabriel · 03-10-09, 03:17 AM

@ the periscope 3d model (Kaye T. Bai)

This was one of the reasons I warned people that this mod will conflict with other subs. I do not know yet how to create a set of periscopes to be used by just one sub (I'd have to add two 3d model objects in the sensors_US.dat file - adding is easy, I just don't know if I can link them to the sub - probably yes). As soon as I know how to do that, I will fix it.

@the ship wake (thyro)

I do not mind suggestions and comments at all. In fact I rely heavily on them. I do not have time to test myself and also there are things others know and I find out about them much faster like this. So keep the comments coming. By the way, could you post a screen shot of the ship wakes you mentioned about? I did not have time to install myself what you recommended, but I wondered many times how they look like

)

@lothos

To deal with the damaged ships still floating, I will include a dummy tomahawk anti-ship missile (it is not guided-WIP-but it flies fast and packs a hevy puch). The new ADCAP torpedos themselves will be based on the German type XI torpedo. They are now like wild dogs

)

Oh, and by the way, I think that popping out of the water is just due to inertia, I use stock game (no mods) and sometimes they pop out for me too (however in the next version they will pop out less - I think - you will test it

).

Does anyone know if deformation of water surface can be changed somehow? I am thinking about the sub-front going below the waves and curving the water surface around it. Like in the pictures people posted above.

Zuber321 · 03-10-09, 03:21 AM

I do that , what you say Tom. But tha dosen't work. I think the problem is I don't have englisch version of silent hunter 4.Sorry for my englisch

tomagabriel · 03-10-09, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuber321

I do that , what you say Tom. But tha dosen't work. I think the problem is I don't have englisch version of silent hunter 4.Sorry for my englisch

This might be the case for the problem. I will think about it. Unfortunately I do not have your version of Silent Hunter to help you directly.

What version of SHIV do you have? Is it in other language? German? Maybe other people here have it too. That might help a bit.

Zuber321 · 03-10-09, 04:23 AM

I ccome from Poland so I Have a Polisch Language of Silent hunter 4

thyro · 03-10-09, 06:37 AM

no worries tomagabriel

Take IOWA for example...

If same size wake is possible add to Ohio that would probably give the visual water displacement that Ohio class subs do...

Cheers

tomagabriel · 03-10-09, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuber321

I ccome from Poland so I Have a Polisch Language of Silent hunter 4

Hi,

Our colleague here Zel sent me this message:

"
Hey, I was browsing the subsim forum and noticed someone said that his
Ohio's tower doesn't work. It may be because it's conflicting with
Gato. So he could try going to UPCUnitsData, and just rename
UnitParts1Gato.upc to Unitparts1Gato.upx. Then try the Ohio. When he
wants to use the Gato, he should just rename upx back to upc.
I don't have a forum account, so you can suggest him to try that,
maybe it will work.

Zel
"

Zuber321, could you test this for yourself and see if it works? If it is not working, maybe you should also try it with Tambor instead of Gato.

tomagabriel · 03-10-09, 06:45 AM

@thyro

I get the picture and also the idea and I agree with you. The sub needs such a thing. I will look into it in order to add it in the next version.

Thanks!

Zuber321 · 03-10-09, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Hi,

Our colleague here Zel sent me this message:

"
Hey, I was browsing the subsim forum and noticed someone said that his
Ohio's tower doesn't work. It may be because it's conflicting with
Gato. So he could try going to UPCUnitsData, and just rename
UnitParts1Gato.upc to Unitparts1Gato.upx. Then try the Ohio. When he
wants to use the Gato, he should just rename upx back to upc.
I don't have a forum account, so you can suggest him to try that,
maybe it will work.

Zel

Tahnks Guys

Thats Works

Thanks Zel and Tom You are Great Guys ....xD Thanks for Help witch Ohio Submarine Mod

Kaye T. Bai · 03-10-09, 03:25 PM

Well said, thyro.

A simple, yet effective solution.

tomagabriel · 03-11-09, 03:11 AM

@Zuber321

I am glad that worked out well. The credit for the solution goes to Zel (he is not a member of the subsim community - I hope he will join us soon). I just passed along his solution to you.

@Everybody

On the request of many people here, new foam and wake effects. I guess it looks much better (still a WIP, but much better), wouldn't you agree?

So Thyro, thanks for the screens yesterday, it quickly cleared out what you meant.

Further on. Enough changes have been made to this mod since the previous release to justify the release of another version. Among major changes there are:
- improved ADCAP torpedo capabilities; it is now based on the German type XI passive acoustic torpedo (also increased speed to 50 knots); - people not having U-Boot missions might no longer be able to run this mod, therefore my advice is to upgrade their installation to 1.5 or wait for version 1 of the mod that I will try to release also for SH4 without U-Boot missions (that version will however miss some features so go and upgrade SH4!)
-added an unguided anti ship cruise missile (very crude simulation of the real stuff, because it is still WIP, but good for port attacks or to finish still floating ships from afar) - based on Tomahawk
-greatly improved water foam/splashes effects around and on the ship
-added an extendable radar mast (no more radars sticking out of the conning tower);
-modded the radar to be universal (detects both air and sea contacts - no need to have two radar antennas anymore - credits to Anvart for his extendable SD antenna mod - I used the knowledge there)

Ok, the new version is not yet released so don't ask where to donload. It will be out in something like a week. Wait for announcements here.

Kaye T. Bai · 03-11-09, 03:29 AM

Ooh, very nice!

Love the new wake effects!

I just have four questions.

1. Will there be internal damage effects? No more empty interiors when damaged?

2. Also, will the periscopes and masts be exclusive to the Ohio-class SSBN? No more World War 2 submarines with modern periscopes?

3. If someone doesn't have the U-Boat Missions expansion pack, they can't use the updated version of the mod?

4. How will the radio mast be extended and retracted?

tomagabriel · 03-11-09, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaye T. Bai

Ooh, very nice!

Love the new wake effects!

I just have four questions.

1. Will there be internal damage effects? No more empty interiors when damaged?

Probably; don't know yet. They will certainly be included one day. Possibly in this release, but not guaranteed.

2. Also, will the periscopes and masts be exclusive to the Ohio-class SSBN? No more World War 2 submarines with modern periscopes?

Yes, most likely the periscopes and masts will still be exclusive for the Ohio. I intend to change this, but...

3. If someone doesn't have the U-Boat Missions expansion pack, they can't use the updated version of the mod?

The mod uses German torpedos. I do not think they are compatible with SHIV without Uboot missions. I will try to release versions of the mod also for people without UBoot missions, but they will lack some features.

4. How will the radio mast be extended and retracted?

Press "Shift+X". In the future I will probably add a button for it.

See the answers in the quoted text.

Kaye T. Bai · 03-11-09, 04:30 AM

Thanks tomagabriel!

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03-10-09, 03:17 AM	#48
tomagabriel Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 122 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 3	@ the periscope 3d model (Kaye T. Bai) This was one of the reasons I warned people that this mod will conflict with other subs. I do not know yet how to create a set of periscopes to be used by just one sub (I'd have to add two 3d model objects in the sensors_US.dat file - adding is easy, I just don't know if I can link them to the sub - probably yes). As soon as I know how to do that, I will fix it. @the ship wake (thyro) I do not mind suggestions and comments at all. In fact I rely heavily on them. I do not have time to test myself and also there are things others know and I find out about them much faster like this. So keep the comments coming. By the way, could you post a screen shot of the ship wakes you mentioned about? I did not have time to install myself what you recommended, but I wondered many times how they look like ) @lothos To deal with the damaged ships still floating, I will include a dummy tomahawk anti-ship missile (it is not guided-WIP-but it flies fast and packs a hevy puch). The new ADCAP torpedos themselves will be based on the German type XI torpedo. They are now like wild dogs ) Oh, and by the way, I think that popping out of the water is just due to inertia, I use stock game (no mods) and sometimes they pop out for me too (however in the next version they will pop out less - I think - you will test it). Does anyone know if deformation of water surface can be changed somehow? I am thinking about the sub-front going below the waves and curving the water surface around it. Like in the pictures people posted above.

03-10-09, 06:37 AM	#52
thyro Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on a rock surrounded by water, that people call it UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	no worries tomagabriel Take IOWA for example... If same size wake is possible add to Ohio that would probably give the visual water displacement that Ohio class subs do... Cheers __________________ "The good news is that you’re never, ever more than 6 miles from land. The bad news is, the land is straight down!"

03-11-09, 03:29 AM	#58
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 585 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Ooh, very nice! Love the new wake effects! I just have four questions. 1. Will there be internal damage effects? No more empty interiors when damaged? 2. Also, will the periscopes and masts be exclusive to the Ohio-class SSBN? No more World War 2 submarines with modern periscopes? 3. If someone doesn't have the U-Boat Missions expansion pack, they can't use the updated version of the mod? 4. How will the radio mast be extended and retracted? Last edited by Kaye T. Bai; 03-12-09 at 03:36 PM.

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03-09-09, 01:46 PM	#47
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 585 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	One question, with the Ohio-class SSBN installed, the periscope models used for the Ohio-class SSBN are used with every other submarine in the game, original and community-made. Is there a plan to fix this in further releases?

03-10-09, 03:21 AM	#49
Zuber321 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 9 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I do that , what you say Tom. But tha dosen't work. I think the problem is I don't have englisch version of silent hunter 4.Sorry for my englisch

03-10-09, 04:23 AM	#51
Zuber321 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 9 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I ccome from Poland so I Have a Polisch Language of Silent hunter 4

03-10-09, 06:45 AM	#54
tomagabriel Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 122 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 3	@thyro I get the picture and also the idea and I agree with you. The sub needs such a thing. I will look into it in order to add it in the next version. Thanks!

03-10-09, 03:25 PM	#56
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 585 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Well said, thyro. A simple, yet effective solution.

03-11-09, 03:11 AM	#57
tomagabriel Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 122 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 3	@Zuber321 I am glad that worked out well. The credit for the solution goes to Zel (he is not a member of the subsim community - I hope he will join us soon). I just passed along his solution to you. @Everybody On the request of many people here, new foam and wake effects. I guess it looks much better (still a WIP, but much better), wouldn't you agree? So Thyro, thanks for the screens yesterday, it quickly cleared out what you meant. Further on. Enough changes have been made to this mod since the previous release to justify the release of another version. Among major changes there are: - improved ADCAP torpedo capabilities; it is now based on the German type XI passive acoustic torpedo (also increased speed to 50 knots); - people not having U-Boot missions might no longer be able to run this mod, therefore my advice is to upgrade their installation to 1.5 or wait for version 1 of the mod that I will try to release also for SH4 without U-Boot missions (that version will however miss some features so go and upgrade SH4!) -added an unguided anti ship cruise missile (very crude simulation of the real stuff, because it is still WIP, but good for port attacks or to finish still floating ships from afar) - based on Tomahawk -greatly improved water foam/splashes effects around and on the ship -added an extendable radar mast (no more radars sticking out of the conning tower); -modded the radar to be universal (detects both air and sea contacts - no need to have two radar antennas anymore - credits to Anvart for his extendable SD antenna mod - I used the knowledge there) Ok, the new version is not yet released so don't ask where to donload. It will be out in something like a week. Wait for announcements here.

03-11-09, 04:30 AM	#60
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 585 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Thanks tomagabriel!