At Least Seven Dead in School Shooting

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

They really are networked, his friend Dillon Cossey was arrested last month in Philadelphia for planning an attack to his school.

http://www.thetrenchcoat.com/mcs/Dil...thekiller4.htm

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news...or_mother.html

That answers my question if his intentions were realistic and serious, or just a derailing exaggeration. Therefore I conclude that he should be held accountable for his share of responsibility in the Finland event.

[Chock]

They really are networked, his friend Dillon Cossey was arrested last month in Philadelphia for planning an attack to his school.

Just looked on that link, and oh dear, what a moron, check this out from his site:

'Im Leader of the .I.C.A. Military group, I love to blow **** up, and Im a bit of a merc'

I think that translates as: I've never actually been in a war, and would pee myself if I ever really was, but I'm hugely impressed with the notion of it from preposterous action films, and I like the idea of being a mercenary, because I think it would be like the A-Team as opposed to the reality of hanging around in Mogadishu with all the other meatheads hoping that it'll be like the Wild Geese, which it won't.

And the guy's favourite film? Red Dawn - which just about says it all, the guy can't even pick a decent action movie, what an idiot, and he's their leader. Punctuation doesn't appear to be a strong point with him either.

Chock

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by waste gate

That opens a whole other can of worms with regard to personal freedoms(civil liberty). Who makes the decision as to state of mind. I for one wouldn't want that responsibility.

What about all those would be terrorists in GITMO? What about charging someone with attempted murder? What about dealing with someone that utters threats? You can't be serious WG that we can't analyse behavior to determine a likely avenue of outcome. You would be disagreeing with some of your own positions I think to make such a broad statement. Criminal psychology is a huge part of police work.

This isn't a recent phenomenon. This type of thing has been going on for quite some time. Trying to understand why it happens hasn't yielded an end to it. Time to try someting different and let it be known that this type of behavior will be met with deadly physical force.

You assume that nothing has changed as a result of this. So apparently everything is a failure unless we see a 100% decrease in crime? Reactive solutions are the norm and in fact the kind of preventative measures of trying to find the root are always the ones that get less heed. So if anything with all of these events we need to look towards preventative measures more than reactive ones. You can't have a gun protecting everyone all the time. If you can get the kid before he gets turned into a psycho-nazi then maybe he wont shoot 8 people.

If there are a number of kids running around shooting people it isn't cause they're just crazy. If he's young and has crazy beliefs that are violent, something that isn't a natural cultural or familial trait, then we can see that there is some influence on them. The Hitler Youth made many a good boy into a blood thirsty zealot. I don't see how you can go on about civil liberties if many of these kids are this way as a result of being mistreated in someway when they had no ability to protect their own interests. No free market economy or concealed fire-arms law is gonna help a kid being ingrained with hateful ideologies or being abused in some way by his parents.

I see contradictions in more than just the shooter's words.

[Happy Times]

Boys 'planned Stockholm school shooting'

Two teenage boys have been arrested in Stockholm on suspicion of conspiring to kill the headteacher of a school in the city, in an attack allegedly inspired by Wednesday's shooting in Jokela, Finland.

http://www.thelocal.se/9055/20071109/