50$ ??

[XanderF]

Originally Posted by Mylander

As has been pointed out, you are getting a lot of work, expertise, expense, etc... from Ubi to provide a sim such as SH IV for 50 bucks US, or thereabouts. We subsimmers are a very small niche market. If the Ubis of the world don't see some ability to turn a profit by producing sub sims, there just won't be any more sub sims. It's just that simple. 15 years from now, you'll be trying to find a computer you can still play SH IV on. Keep whining, don't support these companies, (which actually do listen to our ideas and constructive criticism) and see what the natural consequences are. (read: No more sub sims.) Just my $.02

Indeed. Let's, for a moment, count the game studios that have come !and gone! because people didn't buy enough of their games:
- Jane's Combat Simulations (that gave us 'Fleet Command', '688i', and a bucket of great flight sims)
- Microprose (Microprose! "Silent Service II" is a genre CLASSIC! And, again, buckets of flight sims. Who can forget the awesome news of the layoff of the entire Falcon 4.0 staff right around Christmas, as another patch was supposedly about to come out?)
- Rowan Software. Hello, "Mig Alley" and "Battle of Britain"! And....goodbye, too!
- Dynamix ("Aces of the Pacific", and another great subsim classic - "Aces of the Deep", etc)
- DiD ("EF2000", "Total Air War", etc.)
- Heck, even Sonalysts ("Dangerous Waters", "Sub Command") are largely allocating resources to other, 'more profitable' ventures.

You can go on and on and on. Simulations are really QUITE a niche market. A company has to deliver damn near perfectly, and consistently (and be based in a lower-cost-of-living foreign country ) to even break even anymore (see: the IL2 series, the Flanker series, etc).

For a 'mainstream' product (say, anything in the 'Battlefield', 'Quake', or 'Unreal' series), sure, I'm all for "voting with your wallet" and not buying a title if it doesn't perfectly meet every expectation you have.

For sims? Ummm...no. QUITE a bit more lenient, there. Holding on to your principles and driving every one of the companies out of business is hardly a good long-term solution.

[Hylander_1314]

Games were only about 10 bucks cheaper 8 to 10 years ago. So a 1 dollar increase over 10 years isn't that much. Does that even cover cost of living increases?

[geetrue]

That's a pretty good list XanderF made of all the games in my library. Good point too ...

Just proves us submarine simmers/PT Boat/Naval Sims/Pirate Boat sims/aircraft sims type
of people are rare and extremly smarter than the other boobs, who have to have the latest
FPS/witchcraft/Kung Fu games.

We sub/naval simmers have smarts, inteligence, patience, a real inner understanding of
what is fun. It's all in the hunt, that's what every policeman will tell you ... The fun is all in the hunt.

That feeling will never go away in man ...

[selfhighfi]

50 bucks for game that good last three to four years, versus a ps3 or xbox 360 for sixty bucks that could barely last a weekend before it is collecting dust. I don't understand what the big deal is ?

[cappy70]

as a gamer,,an addicted gamer with gaming as a main hobby,( beside my Suzuki M109-R ) has give me the opportunity to be ( doing for free), as I wrote before, doing internal beta testing for H&D 2, testing patch for I-War, (space simulator) sending test results direct to programmer over in England over e - mail, testing Throne of Darkness, ( I'm getting to the point ).
$50 is a sum that pay all this that make a game come out; work, dedication, artists putting in over-time that would any normal human "close-the-store", and above all in a shrinking sim - market, "dangerously" fast, one should really be happy for a success like SH3 making Ubisoft making SH4 come true. Does anyone think IF SH3 would have been a complete failure that we would have a SH4 in GOLD status today??
Also, look at consoles games price tag that never really go any cheaper until after about a "decade".

All due respect,,if $50 is costly for you, wait until price hit the bargain bin and then buy.
The sim market is so small today that soon we need a microscope to see it. I'm so lucky that I sit on most of these sims, ( read the word above: addicted) and can play them over and over.

[marky]

i made my mom spend 200...

the normal version from UBI

AND the super collectors edition

it took a while of nagging but i did it

(i dont have a degree yet)



just drop the 50 bucks, ya landlubbers! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[marky]

cmon show sum ENTHUSIASM!


like i do!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[marky]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Aaaaaaaand...the whining starts already. I see people willing to fork over twice that for the "Special" versions. As soon as I have that fifty smackeroos I'll be getting my copy...and I can't even play it!

agreed!



i made mom drop 200:rotfl:

[Ark]

Weeeeeee!

lol

[Aimbot]

I owe Ubi. They produce top tier sims at a time when nearly every other publisher has moved on to greener pastures. Not only have I already bought it at full price, I apreciate the opportunity and will do all I can to increase sales by word of mouth.

[marky]

Originally Posted by Aimbot

I owe Ubi. They produce top tier sims at a time when nearly every other publisher has moved on to greener pastures. Not only have I already bought it at full price, I apreciate the opportunity and will do all I can to increase sales by word of mouth.

agweed

it looks excamallent in the reviewz

[marky]

Originally Posted by Ark

Weeeeeee!

lol

too much caffination? :rotfl: