The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by floundericiousWA

We simply don't know how it's going to practically work until they actually release it.

Valid point which stops me from preordering it - along with the DRM
I would have bought the game despite only one sub type and short war just to keep the series afloat, as i did with SH4 even though hated the look of it and didnt like playing it even with the add on - lol and if honest disliked working on it for GWX4.
But still bought it
The way Sh5 is being marketed lead me to believe ubi care not for its customers - moreso than usual - and care not for the SH series themselves
So why should I

Time will tell I guess unless ubi can start giving some answers

Fat chance of that

[Arclight]

This thing is moving so fast I can't possibly keep up.

For the recoerd, I think they said saves are synchronized to the server; which I interpret as local saves that are uploaded so you can continue your game anywhere. Not that horrible imho.

[Jades]

TBH I was pretty indifferent to SH5 anyway, but the stuff I've read here is the final nail in the coffin. I hadn't heard the thing about only having one boat and ending in 1943 - you're making that up, right? RIGHT!?

The great thing for me, particularly if the new game from the IL2 developers will be published by Ubisoft and have the same DRM scheme, is I'm going to save a FORTUNE on PC upgrades and have a whole lot of other games to play. I may well reinvest the money in drink.

DRINK!
GIRLS!
ARSE!
****!
DRINK!
DRINK!

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by Arclight

This thing is moving so fast I can't possibly keep up.

For the recoerd, I think they said saves are synchronized to the server; which I interpret as local saves that are uploaded so you can continue your game anywhere. Not that horrible imho.

Aye tis true tho likely uses Ubi save to fire up game as you can play from any comp you have it installed on
And of course as long as you are connected to the net

[trenken]

Originally Posted by Arclight

This thing is moving so fast I can't possibly keep up.

For the recoerd, I think they said saves are synchronized to the server; which I interpret as local saves that are uploaded so you can continue your game anywhere. Not that horrible imho.

Correct. But doing that puts all of the modders out of business. Of course bad for them, but SH1-4 were what they were, great games, time to move on, so the series is heading in a new direction now. Not that big of a deal to me, and I loved the mods believe me.

I can sure live without them though if they put out some content creation tools for us to customize things, maybe set up some new missions, anything. Maybe some expansions, who knows. I cant change the way they're going, so ill hope for the best and see what happens with this new direction for SH.

If they dont do any of that, big deal, im buried in a backlog of games I need to play. SH wont last forever.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by ParaB

Trenken, your reasoning is so naive that I'm beginning to wonder if you're some kind of viral marketing stunt.

Let the man state his opinion. You have to know that even though a lot of people react negatively to this DRM, not everyone cares that much.

[maurader]

Originally Posted by trenken

Have to just quote this again for that guy so he can look even worse.

"We do NOT use online authentication or any other SecuROM functionality except for a disc check when you install the game and when you launch the game"

If I try and launch FO3 right now with no internet connection, game will not run. Same deal with SH5.

Read the quote again:

It doesn't use any online authentication.
It uses a DISK CHECK during install and launch.
My game machine is not hooked up to my router/switch. With the DVD in the drive, the game starts right up. An error pops up if I start it without the DVD.

NOT THE SAME DRM SCHEME AS SH5.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Let the man state his opinion. You have to know that even though a lot of people react negatively to this DRM, not everyone cares that much.

Well Im pretty much done. I remain positive about it, Im excited about the game, but people around here are really angry about this. All we can do is wait til the game comes out, but im done talking about it. I hope some of these guys will give it a chance.

[John W. Hamm]

Originally Posted by trenken

Guild Wars, Spore, Fallout 3 (single player only by the way), just bought MAss Effect 2 (also single player only).

Works great in all of them. A slow satellite connection make no difference with a single player only DRM game, because game data from other player is not being streamed to you, its only for stat tracking, game updates and saves.

I own and bought Fall out 3 when it first came out and I have all the add-ons and I GUARANTEE Fall Out 3 is not and was NEVER DRM in the way that they want SHV to be.

You want to bring up Spore a quote from wikipedia: "The use of DRM scheme in 2008's Spore backfired and there were considerable protest, resuming in a considerable number of users seeking a pirated version instead. This backlash against SecuROM was a significant factor in Spore becoming the most pirated game in 2008."

What color is the sky in your world?

[Topo65]

When I imagine to 100 thousand users connected by an umbilical cord to a ONE single mother, I can not leave thinking it was an excellent argument for science fiction movie, like Alien, Matrix, Terminator or something.

What next? Commercial breaks while I play? Subliminal messages from Mother? I cant believe it.

[ETR3(SS)]

With a certain degree of certainty, I can say that I think I know where Trenken is coming from. His staunch defense of DRM and putting money in the pockets of the gaming company is a rightly biased opinion for him. Being a 3D animator himself, DRM for anything from games, to music, to movies puts more money in his pocket. It only makes sense to be a supporter of that. How can you convince someone that something that puts money in their pocket is a bad thing? You can't, plain and simple.

[floundericiousWA]

Originally Posted by Topo65

What next? Commercial breaks while I play? Subliminal messages from Mother? I cant believe it.

IF you play some of the latest football or basketball games, they stream commercial content to the simulated court-/field-side advertisement boards...THAT horse is out of the barn lol

[trenken]

Originally Posted by John W. Hamm

I own and bought Fall out 3 when it first came out and I have all the add-ons and I GUARANTEE Fall Out 3 is not and was NEVER DRM in the way that they want SHV to be.

You've played SH5? Becuase you need an internet connection to launch FO3 unless you install FOSE and launch the game through Fallout Mod Manager and it will bypass both the Steam (if you have a Steam version) and GFWL log-in.

If you've got an internet connection to launch FO3, you've got one to run SH5. That's who this game is made for, which is the majority of us.

As far as the mod issue, well go play SH3 if you want that. SH5 is for other people apparently. What can you do? Nothing. Buy it or dont.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

With a certain degree of certainty, I can say that I think I know where Trenken is coming from. His staunch defense of DRM and putting money in the pockets of the gaming company is a rightly biased opinion for him. Being a 3D animator himself, DRM for anything from games, to music, to movies puts more money in his pocket. It only makes sense to be a supporter of that. How can you convince someone that something that puts money in their pocket is a bad thing? You can't, plain and simple.

I expected to get attacked for trying to defend it, thats fine. No love lost, Im not mad at anyone and I hope noone is mad at me, we're all just sharing our opinions, its all good.

They see it one way, I see it from a completely different perspective in that SH3 was great with the whole mod community, this is a different game now. So if they dont like it they dont have to buy it, thats fine, but a lot of people will still buy it so we cant get this one changed I dont think.

I really dont care either way, I dont work for ubi, but I sure do understand why they're doing it. Hard for me to complain about them for trying to make a larger profit.

[floundericiousWA]

Originally Posted by trenken

What can you do? Nothing. Buy it or dont.

OH GREAT AND MIGHTY DEVELOPER, PLEASE HEAR MY PITIFUL PLEAS!!!!

See, again, the screeching halt that the fan community forced on SHIII when they said they wouldn't include the "dynamic" campaign. There is such a thing as souring the people who SHOULD be your champions to the broader gaming community.