Dangerous Waters=Insane? - Page 3

Marhkimov · 12-04-05, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

It's either learning this or modding SHIII over the winter break for me :hmm:

Modding SH3!!!
Modding SH3!!!
Modding SH3!!!

CCIP · 12-04-05, 12:51 AM

I'll try both. Just not at the same time. And making some videos, too.

I get the feeling I'm gonna be a lot more during this little vacation than I am now (and I'm writing several major research papers here)

Kapitan · 12-04-05, 03:15 AM

voice doesnt useualy work that well launch tube and it does some thing else

i use a mix voice and keyboard but if your doing MP then dont use voice especialy if your using team speak at the same time

i am thinking about a manual for akula skippers but im not to sure

CptGrayWolf · 12-04-05, 10:41 AM

What Kapitain doesnt seem to understand is that SHIII players are also WWII buffs, it has nothing to do with how much more weaponry modern subs have or how far away we can shoot.

Heck, I heard that one Nuke subs carries more firepower then all the bombs that were dropped in WWII, so of course you can't compare.

Of course we take hours lining up our shot and stalking our convoys, that's the fun part.

Kapitan · 12-04-05, 10:50 AM

i know most of you are WW2 buffs but im not even compairing because i know you cant.

ohio typhoon vangaurd l'inflexible xia all carry more fire power that you guys can only dream of having.

but the best part of SH3 is the stalking and firing and the fact you get deapth charged rather than torpedoed

Driftwood · 12-04-05, 10:52 AM

True, voice command has it's issues but I find it worth the effort. The ONLY time I've ever had trouble with it is going back to the sonar station. I've never had any trouble launching weapons using voice command. And using Teamspeak along with voice command isn't a problem either. You just have to keep which button is for voice command and which button is for Teamspeak straight in your head. But hey, everyone has their own preferences.

CptGrayWolf · 12-04-05, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain

ohio typhoon vangaurd l'inflexible xia all carry more fire power that you guys can only dream of having.

LuftWolf · 12-04-05, 12:02 PM

It is very much the same in Combat Mission.

There are those who play it because its a sim, and there are those who play it because it is a historical game.

For those of you interested in things that aren't explicetly historical in nature, and enjoy quality simulations, its definately worth a look as a total package. Also for pure human vs. human adrenaline junkies, a little bit of investment will pay off in years of quality multiplayer gaming, as DW is going to be the premier multiplayer and modern naval simulation for some years to come.

I don't think it's necessarily right to come to the SHIII forum and talk one game over another, but I think there are lot of misconceptions about DW, which is a shame, because it is one hell of a good game. If you can say good on the internet. :|\

Driftwood · 12-04-05, 12:29 PM

Do I hear any votes for Silent Hunter IV, US Subs in the Pacific?

CptGrayWolf · 12-04-05, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Driftwood

Do I hear any votes for Silent Hunter IV, US Subs in the Pacific?

Count me onboard captain!

:hmm: thinks ahead to SHIV :hmm: I wonder how much a pentium 6 will cost me.

Fandango · 12-04-05, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Personally, looks aside, I have a feeling I'm going to love this. But yowch - I don't even know where to start! I need a manual!

Don't forget there's a DW community a few webpages from this one full of people that will be happy to help you with any problems you may have. And once you have the game, don't forget the multi-station capability...that's a lot of fun...

CCIP · 12-04-05, 01:36 PM

I don't really doubt I can learn it.
I mean hey - before I went into SHIII, I knew absolutely nothing about submarines! I didn't even know what a Type VII was before I commanded it :rotfl:
But now I find myself giving people hours-long lectures on the Battle of the Atlantic and the historical usage of this or that equipment - lack of knowledge is nothing that a couple of months of research can't fix

I'll definitely go to the community to check up on what to do. If there's anything I learned from SHIII and Subsim - a good community makes a game better.

I think 'hostile' comparisons of SHIII and DW will not do anyone any good, and really don't go anywhere regardless. There's no reason you have to choose one over the other, besides perhaps finding time to play.

OneShot · 12-04-05, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

I think 'hostile' comparisons of SHIII and DW will not do anyone any good, and really don't go anywhere regardless. There's no reason you have to choose one over the other, besides perhaps finding time to play.

Amen to that

kiwi_2005 · 12-04-05, 02:47 PM

Both games are very different, and they're both very good. But to go DW does this or SH3 does this compared to the other is silly. Still i have to have last word.

One thing ive notice that is different is one has really really bad graphics and the other doesn't. No guesses which one.
DW graphics are bad its like going back 5 yrs, the explosions are laughable, the subs are badly designed and theres no 3d interier its still that "old days look" 2d screens. The developers didn't give a crap about the graphics department, did they just get out the subcommand engine and slapped on a few water effects. I found the SCX mods that came out for Sub Command still beat the DW sub details by miles!
Ok but DW is all about realism, so graphics was on the bottom of the list, because of this you dont need a beast of a computer to play it. I got all 3d options on the highest in DW and she looks passable she would of been in the WOW factor 6yrs ago, but its a yawn now. If DW 2 ever came out, having a 3d intererior should be on the list, eye candy in games is a good thing!

I play both games.

Takeda Shingen · 12-04-05, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitain

i know most of you are WW2 buffs but im not even compairing because i know you cant.

ohio typhoon vangaurd l'inflexible xia all carry more fire power that you guys can only dream of having.

but the best part of SH3 is the stalking and firing and the fact you get deapth charged rather than torpedoed

Yes, unfortunately the Ohio, Typhoon, Vanguard, l'Inflexible and Xia (which is laid up, by the way), are not playable. Besides, these guys do live in the early part of the 21st Century, just like you. They understand that nuclear weapons are powerful.

Dangerous Waters is a good sim. Play it if you feel you would enjoy it. Do not play it if you do not wish.

12-04-05, 12:51 AM	#32
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I'll try both. Just not at the same time. And making some videos, too. I get the feeling I'm gonna be a lot more during this little vacation than I am now (and I'm writing several major research papers here) __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-04-05, 03:15 AM	#33
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,134 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	voice doesnt useualy work that well launch tube and it does some thing else i use a mix voice and keyboard but if your doing MP then dont use voice especialy if your using team speak at the same time i am thinking about a manual for akula skippers but im not to sure __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

12-04-05, 10:50 AM	#35
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,134 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	i know most of you are WW2 buffs but im not even compairing because i know you cant. ohio typhoon vangaurd l'inflexible xia all carry more fire power that you guys can only dream of having. but the best part of SH3 is the stalking and firing and the fact you get deapth charged rather than torpedoed __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

12-04-05, 10:52 AM	#36
Driftwood Chief Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Western NC Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	True, voice command has it's issues but I find it worth the effort. The ONLY time I've ever had trouble with it is going back to the sonar station. I've never had any trouble launching weapons using voice command. And using Teamspeak along with voice command isn't a problem either. You just have to keep which button is for voice command and which button is for Teamspeak straight in your head. But hey, everyone has their own preferences. __________________ Retired US Army Paratrooper Virtual Sub Skipper

12-04-05, 12:02 PM	#38
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	It is very much the same in Combat Mission. There are those who play it because its a sim, and there are those who play it because it is a historical game. For those of you interested in things that aren't explicetly historical in nature, and enjoy quality simulations, its definately worth a look as a total package. Also for pure human vs. human adrenaline junkies, a little bit of investment will pay off in years of quality multiplayer gaming, as DW is going to be the premier multiplayer and modern naval simulation for some years to come. I don't think it's necessarily right to come to the SHIII forum and talk one game over another, but I think there are lot of misconceptions about DW, which is a shame, because it is one hell of a good game. If you can say good on the internet. :\|\ __________________ LW

12-04-05, 10:41 AM	#34
CptGrayWolf Commander Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saint Lawrence Seaway Posts: 459 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	What Kapitain doesnt seem to understand is that SHIII players are also WWII buffs, it has nothing to do with how much more weaponry modern subs have or how far away we can shoot. Heck, I heard that one Nuke subs carries more firepower then all the bombs that were dropped in WWII, so of course you can't compare. Of course we take hours lining up our shot and stalking our convoys, that's the fun part.

12-04-05, 12:29 PM	#39
Driftwood Chief Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Western NC Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Do I hear any votes for Silent Hunter IV, US Subs in the Pacific? __________________ Retired US Army Paratrooper Virtual Sub Skipper

12-04-05, 01:36 PM	#42
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I don't really doubt I can learn it. I mean hey - before I went into SHIII, I knew absolutely nothing about submarines! I didn't even know what a Type VII was before I commanded it :rotfl: But now I find myself giving people hours-long lectures on the Battle of the Atlantic and the historical usage of this or that equipment - lack of knowledge is nothing that a couple of months of research can't fix I'll definitely go to the community to check up on what to do. If there's anything I learned from SHIII and Subsim - a good community makes a game better. I think 'hostile' comparisons of SHIII and DW will not do anyone any good, and really don't go anywhere regardless. There's no reason you have to choose one over the other, besides perhaps finding time to play. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-04-05, 02:47 PM	#44
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Both games are very different, and they're both very good. But to go DW does this or SH3 does this compared to the other is silly. Still i have to have last word. One thing ive notice that is different is one has really really bad graphics and the other doesn't. No guesses which one. DW graphics are bad its like going back 5 yrs, the explosions are laughable, the subs are badly designed and theres no 3d interier its still that "old days look" 2d screens. The developers didn't give a crap about the graphics department, did they just get out the subcommand engine and slapped on a few water effects. I found the SCX mods that came out for Sub Command still beat the DW sub details by miles! Ok but DW is all about realism, so graphics was on the bottom of the list, because of this you dont need a beast of a computer to play it. I got all 3d options on the highest in DW and she looks passable she would of been in the WOW factor 6yrs ago, but its a yawn now. If DW 2 ever came out, having a 3d intererior should be on the list, eye candy in games is a good thing! I play both games. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

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