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[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Peter Cremer

Soundman: just saw your sig picture. I remember the RA-5C Vigilante from 1969 on the JFK CVA-67. Big, fast, beautiful.

The Vigilante was the fastest plane to take off and land on aircraft carriers ... I think she did 2.2 mach without the electronics pod they called a canoe.

Sadly she was the most shot down Navy plane of the Vietnam war with 23 lost to combat. She was no longer needed for delivering a nuclear weapon after the polaris boats came into service.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

The Vigilante was the fastest plane to take off and land on aircraft carriers...

There was a time in the late '70s when someone tried to claim that the F-15's engine intakes were copied from the MiG-25. Someone else quickly replied "Umm...A-5 anyone?"

[J0313]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

The Vigilante was the fastest plane to take off and land on aircraft carriers ... I think she did 2.2 mach without the electronics pod they called a canoe.

Sadly she was the most shot down Navy plane of the Vietnam war with 23 lost to combat. She was no longer needed for delivering a nuclear weapon after the polaris boats came into service.

Thats a big negative on that one Mr Quatro.

A-1 Skyraider --65 total, 48 in combat

A-4 Skyhawk --282 total, 195 in combat

A-6 Intruder --62 total, 51 in combat

A-7 Corsair --100 total, 55 in combat

F-4 Phantom --138 total, 75 in combat

F-8 Crusader --118 total, 57 in combat

RA-5 Vigilante --27 total, 18 in combat

RF-8 Crusader --29 total, 19 in combat

This is from Wikipedia. And I knew the moment you made that statement it was wrong. You can look on other sites as well and they will give similar figures if you curious. Hell, the USAF alone lost almost 400 Thuds over North Vietnam, almost the entire production run of the D model.

[J0313]

I would leave Finnish ships alone becouse they were sort of defacto allies of Germany during 1939 due to the fact that they were having a nasty little war with the Soviets at that time. Germany was actually supplying them with some war material. Wait to sink them until after 1944 when they switched sides.