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Old 10-05-11, 01:45 PM   #31
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At this juncture I support Cain because I do not believe he will let Congress use him as a doormat.
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Old 10-05-11, 01:53 PM   #32
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Glad you find it amusing. Current state of the country I do not find amusing.
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Old 10-05-11, 03:01 PM   #33
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Come on AVG, it does sound kinda like buying that changy hopey line people got sold last time.
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Old 10-05-11, 03:10 PM   #34
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Come on AVG, it does sound kinda like buying that changy hopey line people got sold last time.

Can we find a better line from any of the 7 running? Can we find a better line from the one in the position already?
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Old 10-05-11, 03:15 PM   #35
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Today's word in DC is surtax.
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Today's word in DC is surtax.
You mean its back to where I have to earn a million bucks a year before I can pay my fair share? Damn. I feel so..... dirty.
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Old 10-05-11, 03:49 PM   #37
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Can we find a better line from any of the 7 running?
7? Its 7 over here.
You have 8 main
plus a bunch of complete no hopers, another couple of maybe runs and loads of "major" drop outs already....and thats only for one party.
As for a better line, which one is willing to say "I will be pretty much like the last president who was pretty much like the last president who was pretty much like the last president who....."
Thats "change" you can believe in and would be that rarest of things, a relatively honest candidate.

Heres a thought for you though, given that bubbles seems very exited about the poll how do you interpret it that the pick up in numbers seems for Cain to be from the more lunatic fringe candidates previous supporters?
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Poor performance in debating. I think Perry has permanently lost that support as a result.
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Barack Obama will be re-elected as President of the United States and it will not be through strength of his campaign or track record in office.
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Barack Obama will be re-elected as President of the United States and it will not be through strength of his campaign or track record in office.
It will be by the voters NOT voting for the other guy......again
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It will be by the voters NOT voting for the other guy......again
I forget the exact words, but Bush Jr summed it up best during the presidential debates before his second term, they were something along the lines of.. "with me at least you know what your getting", or words to that effect. When he made that statement (or words to that effect), i kinda knew deep down, he was going to be re elected. People go with the BS they know. That said, im not entirely sure Obama will keep with the current trend and get his second term, because there's a lot of hatred floating around these days.
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Old 10-05-11, 05:29 PM   #42
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Does anybody know about Herman Cain's position on creationism? I find no real proof in the web. To me it would make the difference between a candidate with skewed but still acceptable positions and a candidate with insane beliefs.
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Poor performance in debating. I think Perry has permanently lost that support as a result.
Perry will lose because of his stance on immigration. The allowing anchor babies in state tuition. It's a hotpoint that rubs both the left and right the wrong way, due to the economy and the xenophobia that comes with bad economical times.

Either way, theres gonna be an african American in the white house, let's just hope they aren't spineless.
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Barack Obama will be re-elected as President of the United States and it will not be through strength of his campaign or track record in office.
I know exactly what you are thinking and you are right.
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Perry will lose because of his stance on immigration. The allowing anchor babies in state tuition. It's a hotpoint that rubs both the left and right the wrong way, due to the economy and the xenophobia that comes with bad economical times.

Either way, theres gonna be an african American in the white house, let's just hope they aren't spineless.
In part yes, his immigration ideas do not sit well with many.
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