[TEC]GR2 File Editing Information - Page 3

09-30-11, 02:12 PM

I'll have a whole big addition to the first section before Monday.

It will explain the sections Index and continue from there to explain information found in some sections, what they are, and how to read or write to them.

All without useing the granny2.dll in SH5, which is limited in what you can actually do with it to fit our needs.

10-01-11, 02:59 PM

Well, since TDW sent me his version of the GR2 Template,
and it is a much more complete version?
I'll adopt his version after We sort a few issues with it.
It's full of more data then I was going to bother with for now but very nicely done.

And saves me a TON of work on the GR2 Template.
I can spend the extra time doing the Template for Dangerous Waters now.
The goal there is to allow others to write a new converter for the J3D format.

Plus for any future imports to the GR2's?
We may/will need to compute tangents, bitangents, and normals ahead of time.
One reason to plant them in the GR2 is to save CPU time.
That is if the SH5 engine is actually reading them and not doing the math.
I'll have to zero out some and see what happens in Game to be sure.

I've got a start on a Python thingy to do the math but it needs work to finish.

TheDarkWraith · 10-01-11, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Plus for any future imports to the GR2's?
We may/will need to compute tangents, bitangents, and normals ahead of time.
One reason to plant them in the GR2 is to save CPU time.
That is if the SH5 engine is actually reading them and not doing the math.
I'll have to zero out some and see what happens in Game to be sure.

If you look at the shaders you'll see that they use the binormals and tangents

10-01-11, 04:00 PM

OK. I hate looking at all those so that's good to know.

It means the Python thingy (or something like it) will be needed.

Pintea · 10-05-11, 06:01 AM

If you want normal mapping on the models you WILL need the tangents for the normal mapping tangent space. The binormals are optional since they can be calculated inside the game, but as you said they better be contained in the gr2 since it will save some loading time.

The game loads tangents and binormals only if the 3D model has a normalmap texture mapped on the second texturing channel.

10-05-11, 06:17 AM

Thanks for verfying this.

For now I get that info by exporting with opencollada.
The python script will be a stand alone .exe that will be easier to work with.

nyzze · 10-14-11, 01:13 PM

Can u reupload gr2template.bt please?

Gerald · 10-14-11, 01:15 PM

@nyzze! Welcome to SubSim,

nyzze · 10-14-11, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor

@nyzze! Welcome to SubSim,

Thanks

Do you have this template?

Gerald · 10-14-11, 02:00 PM

You are welcome, not those who you seek, privateer can help ya out,

TheDarkWraith · 10-14-11, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor

You are welcome, not those who you seek, privateer can help ya out,

privateer is the main POC for the template file. He is compiling everyone's input into one template file.

10-15-11, 07:49 AM

http://www.mediafire.com/?1clz7zafehdq7qu

This download includes the CRC script to check and set the CRC.

I have not worked on the GR2's for SH5 lately.
I'm working on an application that finds whatever type file I want to find even if it has no file extension.
Written in C, it's very small, fast, and handles dropping huge folders into it very well.

Plus I'm hooked on this incredibly simple and silly Game!
http://www.mollyrocket.com/621

The Heck with angry Birds.
Stunt Hamsters' Rock the Christ Child!!!

10-15-11, 08:23 AM

Link and files changed.

10-15-11, 09:43 AM

http://www.mediafire.com/?ku82wxzw9s9uo7t

Fixed an error in the header.h file

10-15-11, 03:06 PM

Not sure what you mean.

I'm working on something different right now so my mind is not focused on the SH5 GR2 at this moment.

if (hwndListView == NULL)
{
sprintf(sErrorString, "Handle of ListView NULL (fExportListView)");
MessageBox(NULL, (LPSTR) sErrorString, (LPSTR) sYourApplicationsName, MB_OK | MB_ICONEXCLAMATION);
return(0);
}

i = SendMessage((HWND) hwndListView, (UINT) LVM_GETITEMCOUNT, (WPARAM) 0, (LPARAM) 0);
if (lLines != i)
{
sprintf(sErrorString, "%ld lines in ListView != %ld as parameter (fExportListView)", i, lLines);
MessageBox(NULL, (LPSTR) sErrorString, (LPSTR) sYourApplicationsName, MB_OK | MB_ICONEXCLAMATION);
return(0);
}

and so on.

10-14-11, 01:15 PM	#38
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	@nyzze! Welcome to SubSim, __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-14-11, 02:00 PM	#40
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	You are welcome, not those who you seek, privateer can help ya out, __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-15-11, 07:49 AM	#42
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	http://www.mediafire.com/?1clz7zafehdq7qu This download includes the CRC script to check and set the CRC. I have not worked on the GR2's for SH5 lately. I'm working on an application that finds whatever type file I want to find even if it has no file extension. Written in C, it's very small, fast, and handles dropping huge folders into it very well. Plus I'm hooked on this incredibly simple and silly Game! http://www.mollyrocket.com/621 The Heck with angry Birds. Stunt Hamsters' Rock the Christ Child!!! Last edited by Madox58; 10-15-11 at 08:38 AM.

10-15-11, 08:23 AM	#43
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Link and files changed. Last edited by Madox58; 10-15-11 at 08:38 AM.

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09-30-11, 02:12 PM	#31
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'll have a whole big addition to the first section before Monday. It will explain the sections Index and continue from there to explain information found in some sections, what they are, and how to read or write to them. All without useing the granny2.dll in SH5, which is limited in what you can actually do with it to fit our needs.

10-01-11, 02:59 PM	#32
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Well, since TDW sent me his version of the GR2 Template, and it is a much more complete version? I'll adopt his version after We sort a few issues with it. It's full of more data then I was going to bother with for now but very nicely done. And saves me a TON of work on the GR2 Template. I can spend the extra time doing the Template for Dangerous Waters now. The goal there is to allow others to write a new converter for the J3D format. Plus for any future imports to the GR2's? We may/will need to compute tangents, bitangents, and normals ahead of time. One reason to plant them in the GR2 is to save CPU time. That is if the SH5 engine is actually reading them and not doing the math. I'll have to zero out some and see what happens in Game to be sure. I've got a start on a Python thingy to do the math but it needs work to finish.

10-01-11, 04:00 PM	#34
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	OK. I hate looking at all those so that's good to know. It means the Python thingy (or something like it) will be needed.

10-05-11, 06:01 AM	#35
Pintea Sparky Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 152 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	If you want normal mapping on the models you WILL need the tangents for the normal mapping tangent space. The binormals are optional since they can be calculated inside the game, but as you said they better be contained in the gr2 since it will save some loading time. The game loads tangents and binormals only if the 3D model has a normalmap texture mapped on the second texturing channel.

10-05-11, 06:17 AM	#36
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Thanks for verfying this. For now I get that info by exporting with opencollada. The python script will be a stand alone .exe that will be easier to work with.

10-14-11, 01:13 PM	#37
nyzze Nub Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Can u reupload gr2template.bt please?

10-15-11, 09:43 AM	#44
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	http://www.mediafire.com/?ku82wxzw9s9uo7t Fixed an error in the header.h file

10-15-11, 03:06 PM	#45
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Not sure what you mean. I'm working on something different right now so my mind is not focused on the SH5 GR2 at this moment. if (hwndListView == NULL) { sprintf(sErrorString, "Handle of ListView NULL (fExportListView)"); MessageBox(NULL, (LPSTR) sErrorString, (LPSTR) sYourApplicationsName, MB_OK \| MB_ICONEXCLAMATION); return(0); } i = SendMessage((HWND) hwndListView, (UINT) LVM_GETITEMCOUNT, (WPARAM) 0, (LPARAM) 0); if (lLines != i) { sprintf(sErrorString, "%ld lines in ListView != %ld as parameter (fExportListView)", i, lLines); MessageBox(NULL, (LPSTR) sErrorString, (LPSTR) sYourApplicationsName, MB_OK \| MB_ICONEXCLAMATION); return(0); } and so on.