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Old 05-07-11, 03:56 AM   #31
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But look on the bright side, those asylums are clearly letting the patients have internet access now, how progressive.
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Old 05-07-11, 03:56 AM   #32
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RAF terrorists doesn't quite cut it, it should be decadent anglo-american gangster terrorbombers But I see what you mean about........
RAF = Rote Armee Fraktion = Red Army Faction. Not Royal Airforce.
No Anglo-American Gangsters involved.
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Old 05-07-11, 07:41 AM   #33
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Many people in Europe are value conservatives that think traditional values are something not to be forgotten. The Nazi card is getting old as these people are no out to kill anyone and most are definetly not anti-semites, Wilders in Holland, Soini in Finland etc..

Nationalism/Patriotism is not dangerous in itself as the socialists and liberals want to claim, the democratic process is not threatened, it is just standing in the way of their vision.

The EU is controlled by socialists and liberals that want to create a new man, new values and want to end nation states, they want the EUSSR.

Not suprising that the EU commission resembles the Soviet politburo when some half have declared to be Communists during their life.

And about Tribesman not knowing about the RAF is funny, he knew very well what Skybird ment.
Im positive they are high in his list of apreciation just next to IRA and Red Brigades.
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Old 05-07-11, 08:44 AM   #34
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I have to say, the American 1st Amendment looks better and better to me (all of it).

There is something to be said for "Natural Rights" and negative language in such things. Congress shall make no law...
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Old 05-07-11, 09:43 AM   #35
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The EU is controlled by socialists and liberals that want to create a new man, new values and want to end nation states, they want the EUSSR.
Is it really?
so the controlling force isn't the collection of "christians" and "conservatives" who make up the biggest slice and sit in the top chair.

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Nationalism/Patriotism is not dangerous in itself as the socialists and liberals want to claim,
Nationalism and patriotism isn't dangerous in itself, but no one apart from Happy Times imaginary friend claims that anyway. Its the nationalists and patriots that have a tendancy to be dangerous as they run with the flag waving loons who think people across the river are not quite human like they is.

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Im positive they are high in his list of apreciation just next to IRA and Red Brigades.
Make your mind up.
Surely it is you who supposrt the IRA, after all they are flag waving nationalist patriots who believe in the ultimate supremacy of a nation state standing alone
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Old 05-07-11, 03:05 PM   #36
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Is it really?
so the controlling force isn't the collection of "christians" and "conservatives" who make up the biggest slice and sit in the top chair.
You meen "EU President" Herman Van Rompuy and European People's Party, it is clearly a federalist block with liberal and socialist domination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_People%27s_Party

Finlands "Conservative Party" belongs to the same party, their leaderships is totally federalist and liberal.

Comission leader José Manuel Barroso belongs to the same party.
Member of Social Democratic Party of Portugal and former Maoist Communist.

Barroso as a young, passionate Maoist student leader in 1976



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Nationalism and patriotism isn't dangerous in itself, but no one apart from Happy Times imaginary friend claims that anyway. Its the nationalists and patriots that have a tendancy to be dangerous as they run with the flag waving loons who think people across the river are not quite human like they is.
You proved my point.

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Make your mind up.
Surely it is you who supposrt the IRA, after all they are flag waving nationalist patriots who believe in the ultimate supremacy of a nation state standing alone
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Old 05-07-11, 03:21 PM   #37
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Oh I get it, your idea on conservative parties isn't the conservative parties.
So if the conservatives are really the socialists then who are the socialists?

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Yes, it isn't nationalism that is the problem, its the nationalists. Oh if only we could have nationalism without the nationalist idiots nationalism would be so nice without nationalists.
So your point was nothing and the claim you were against was an imaginary one.

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Lunatic nationalists, surely your favourite flag wavers.
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Old 05-07-11, 03:34 PM   #38
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Oh I get it, your idea on conservative parties isn't the conservative parties.
So if the conservatives are really the socialists then who are the socialists?

Here you go again, going around what i stated.

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Yes, it isn't nationalism that is the problem, its the nationalists. Oh if only we could have nationalism without the nationalist idiots nationalism would be so nice without nationalists.
So your point was nothing and the claim you were against was an imaginary one.
Like a broken record.

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Lunatic nationalists, surely your favourite flag wavers.


The sense that the IRA seemed to be drifting away from its conventional republican and nationalist roots into Marxism angered more traditional republicans. Many in the Official IRA later referred to the Provisional IRA as "the rosary brigade" because of what they saw as the Catholic and romantic nationalist ideology of the latter. Some radicals believed that the Irish government, MI5, and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) had conspired to cultivate the split because they were afraid of another Cuba in Europe's "backyard".



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Old 05-07-11, 03:38 PM   #39
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... from a Christian point of view you do not celebrate the death of another person.
Hmm - funny - what is it you think Easter is about? It celebrates the death and resurrection of Jesus. Half the celebration is about his death (thus "Good Friday") - without which there could be no redemption from sin or resurrection to also celebrate.
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Old 05-07-11, 03:43 PM   #40
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Yes, it isn't nationalism that is the problem, its the nationalists. Oh if only we could have nationalism without the nationalist idiots nationalism would be so nice without nationalists.
So your point was nothing and the claim you were against was an imaginary one.
Lunatic nationalists, surely your favourite flag wavers.
So what about the -------s on the other side of the river........?
You want to educate both sides of the river or force one side of the river to accept ideas of the other side for sake of global peace.
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So what about the -------s on the other side of the river........?
You want to educate both sides of the river or force one side of the river to accept ideas of the other side for sake of global peace.
Ending the "reactionary" State of Israel is in the top of the list for these "intellectuals".
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Old 05-07-11, 03:56 PM   #42
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Here you go again, going around what i stated.
You provided a link which says they are center-right, made up of christian democrats and conservatives and you say the conservatives are really the liberals and socilaists.
I think what you mean by conservative is a sort of crazy nationalist which would be quite like those portugese fascists barroso was against, they liked waving the flag


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Like a broken record
Yes because your point was pointless so the same reply fits again and again and will always fit, nationalism is like that, it can be ridiculed in exactly the same way century after century.

Still crazy flag waving nationalists, just like the provos were crazy flag waving nationalists and RIRA/CIRA are crazy flag waving nationalists.
You do like nationalists don't you

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Ending the "reactionary" State of Israel is in the top of the list for these "intellectuals".
no that is the top of the list for the arab nationalists, you like nationalism don't you.
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Old 05-07-11, 04:13 PM   #43
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no that is the top of the list for the arab nationalists, you like nationalism don't you.
You mean nut jihadist.
Nationalism is weak within Arab world.
So thats why we have each side of the river and I'm very happy to have my side.
When they will reach level of my unfriendliness then ill be more friendly.

For now i don't think its good idea to play it Jesus.
We all remember what happened to him.
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Old 05-07-11, 04:20 PM   #44
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Ending the "reactionary" State of Israel is in the top of the list for these "intellectuals".
Israel will be very peaceful place when reduced to Mea Shaarim and Kotel under Muslim supervision.
No nationalism.
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Old 05-08-11, 07:07 AM   #45
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The following is a devastating broadside of (German-tongued) criticism against the German modern mentality, fired by one of my most favourite German writers whom I appreciate for his razorsharp tongue and his witty mind, Henryk Broder, who has Jewish and Polish roots (which does not stop him from criticising Jewish orthodox and Polish policies as well). Kind of a German equivalent to Patrick Condell, just that he covers a much wider spectrum of issues. He has regular columns and does regular contributuions for Der Tagesspiegel, Die Welt and Der Spiegel.

Fun to read, and very very true. And very acid.

You cowardly Germans are passive-aggressive

Yes we are. Not to forget we are also the worldchampion in moralising.

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[Viele Deutsche] sind manisch depressiv, und das in einem Ausmaß, das auf eine Unheilbarkeit des Leidens hindeutet.

Oder um den Churchill-Satz zu variieren: Die Deutschen sind entweder für den totalen Krieg oder den totalen Frieden; die Exportweltmeister, die Weltmeister der Herzen, sind auch Branchenführer im Moralisieren. Aber die Moral, die sie produzieren, ist das reine Gewissen resozialisierter Gewalttäter, die ihre Strafe verbüßt, die Lehren aus der Geschichte gelernt, haben und nun einer Friedfertigkeit verfallen sind, die sie in Form unterlassener Hilfeleistung pflegen.

Dabei tun sie so, als wären sie überzeugte Pazifisten, sie gehen mit einem Zitat von Carl von Ossietzky schlafen und wachen mit einem Gedanken von Mahatma Gandhi auf. Aber sie sind keine Pazifisten, sondern nur faul, feige und passiv-aggressiv. Vom ständigen Gefühl der eigenen Unterlegenheit geplagt, gönnen sie anderen keine Demonstration der Überlegenheit
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Es sind Szenen aus dem Tollhaus einer Moral, deren Verweser sich von der Wirklichkeit verabschiedet haben; sie wissen nicht einmal, wie sie gewaltbereite Jugendliche, die aus Frust Passanten ins Koma prügeln, befrieden sollen, aber im Völkerrecht, da kennen sie sich aus.

Dass es immer die Täter sind, die an ihr Gerechtigkeitsempfinden rühren Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, Osama, kommt wohl daher, dass die Täter sexy, deren Opfer aber kläglich sind. Die stürzen sich schon mal aus dem 100. Stock eines Hochhauses, nur weil sie Angst vor dem Tode haben, während edle Wilde wie Osama auch in heiklen Situationen mit Sätzen wie "Wir lieben den Tod mehr als das Leben" Haltung beweisen.
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