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Old 04-06-11, 08:32 PM   #31
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This should teach you several things.

NEVER admit to anything!
(He fell trying to run out the door and is lying about being hit with a bat will back fire! "I want my Lawyer" is all you should EVER say)

NEVER talk to reporters.
(They have a need to make the news and often cause more harm then good. Those 12 that will Judge you? Already saw or read the News before being selected for Jury Duty. And they will hang you just as fast as everyone here has this Guy)

NEVER, EVER, EVER talk to the Law Dogs (Sorry Jimbuna) about a case you are the suspect in!
(It's thier job to prove a case. Open your mouth and you've done thier job for them. You most likely will remove 'reasonable doubt' by yapping and your high dollar Lawyer just pleads you down when he may have actually earned his money and got you off scot free)

Read "The Manipulation of Human Behaviour" just once.
Written in 1961? It's still a main stream study guide in many areas.
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Old 04-06-11, 08:52 PM   #32
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Have you ever, first hand, had to pick up the pieces of someones skull that has been shattered by a baseball bat?
I have.
I am sorry that you have had to witness such a thing. Truly, i am.

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I'd call it a threatening weapon when wielded as such.
No doubt, i would agree.
That baseball bat would have to be wielded by a able-bodied man i would guess.
I know this is being technical now, but how much force could a wheel-chair bound man exert with a baseball bat?
And how much force could a able-bodied man, standing, exert, with a baseball bat in full swing?
I hazard a guess that the latter would be in a better, much better situation to really do a lot of damage.
In fact, lethal damage.
Someone who is standing and swinging the bat would have much more force at their command.
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Old 04-06-11, 09:09 PM   #33
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Probably.
But an unarmed man standing faceing an unarmed wheel chair bound person holds the advantage everytime.

And unarmed does not mean one does not have deadly abilities.
We know nothing of the skills of the one who got tapped.

As Jimbuna said, he was trained to take a knife away from a person.
I was trained to kill a person by any means.
If you were faceing a threat like that?
Would you carry a bat or hope I'd sit my sorry butt down?
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Old 04-06-11, 09:19 PM   #34
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I am sorry that you have had to witness such a thing. Truly, i am.


No doubt, i would agree.
That baseball bat would have to be wielded by a able-bodied man i would guess.
I know this is being technical now, but how much force could a wheel-chair bound man exert with a baseball bat?
And how much force could a able-bodied man, standing, exert, with a baseball bat in full swing?
I hazard a guess that the latter would be in a better, much better situation to really do a lot of damage.
In fact, lethal damage.
Someone who is standing and swinging the bat would have much more force at their command.
a) Just part of the job.

b) I've been punched by similarly disabled people, you learn quick to never underestimate anybody. IIRC, the article said he paraplegic on the lower half and one arm. I would assume he had full use of the other arm. And electric wheelchairs are fast (especially if you pull the governor). A charging, full swing blow, would do a lot of damage. Enough to break some bones. Think mounted cavalry with a club. But, mounted manwith a bat vs unarmed man, I'd think the guy with the bat would have the initial advantage.

But obviously yeah, a fully functional man would have an advantage with a bat.
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Old 04-06-11, 11:07 PM   #35
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But, mounted manwith a bat vs unarmed man, I'd think the guy with the bat would have the initial advantage
a small initial advantage maybe

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But obviously yeah, a fully functional man would have an advantage with a bat.
Which would have been the situation after the paraplegics first swing once the 230lb child rapist took that bat away.

I've read both pages of arguments in this thread but i'd be very surprised to see the paraplegic get convicted of assaulting a child molester, let alone see them "throw the book at him" like Neon wants to see.
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Old 04-06-11, 11:13 PM   #36
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I've read both pages of arguments in this thread but i'd be very surprised to see the paraplegic get convicted of assaulting a child molester, let alone see them "throw the book at him" like Neon wants to see.
Oh I agree totally there. But they do need to charge him.
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Old 04-07-11, 12:13 AM   #37
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If this would have happened in Texas.....

It would have never made the news.

There would be a new speedbump at the end of the street.
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Old 04-07-11, 02:35 AM   #38
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Finally, someone sees the light.
No, that is someone who appears as myopic on the topic as yourself.

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And again, Amen brother!
Strang, he disagrees with you there, he is more in accordance with Privateers often stated views.
So maybe he is not quite as myopic after all but somehow you think he is saying the same as yourself.

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People should realise that emotions did get in the way, yes we don't deny that, and that this case is what it is.
That is exaclty what you cannot see. You cannot see the case for what it is.
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