Glenn Beck's 'restore honor' rally... - Page 3

Bubblehead1980 · 08-26-10, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Then we are opposites of each other. I have watched the moral and religious right pull the party away from it's ideals of responsible government, fiscal solvency and prudence in foreign affairs in favor of the rights of the fetus, the continued ban on homosexual unions and the war against dangerous stem cells.

The Neo-Cons of the Bush Administration were the darlings of the far-right. To dispute that now would be revisionary. Since 1992, these people have abandoned the ideals of the Republican Party that my father introduced me to in favor of what I listed above. Were he alive today, he would likely not recognize this party.

Oh not disagreeing the religious nuts have hurt the party, I dislike them but they do help elect our candidates.I also agree that Bush and his people were the darlings once, I will admit I voted for him in 2004(couldnt vote in 2000) and don't regret it because he was still a better choice than John Kerry.

I believe our party learned the lesson of the Bush years and things will be different.

Platapus · 08-26-10, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

Which is unfortunate because, if I recall correctly, he's more of a libertarian than a conservative.

I could be wrong on that number, though.

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

He's more of a social engineer than an economist, which is really the point of his whole rally. So, he's Neo-Con through and through. It cannot be overstated how much harm the talk radio crowd has done to American Conservatism.

I think he is an entertainer that will do anything for ratings. When he was on CNN he "acted" libertarian, when that fell through all of a sudden he turned conservative and went to fox. When fox dumps him he will change into anything the next station will pay him for.

Bubblehead1980 · 08-26-10, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I think he is an entertainer that will do anything for ratings. When he was on CNN he "acted" libertarian, when that fell through all of a sudden he turned conservative and went to fox. When fox dumps him he will change into anything the next station will pay him for.

I never watched him on CNN but have heard many say he's basically the same except at CNN he didn't have the free reign he does at Fox.I mean it is Communist News Network after all

CNN is actually kind of fair compared to MSNBC but does lean to left and has the most boring people except Jack Cafferty lol

Takeda Shingen · 08-26-10, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I think he is an entertainer that will do anything for ratings. When he was on CNN he "acted" libertarian, when that fell through all of a sudden he turned conservative and went to fox. When fox dumps him he will change into anything the next station will pay him for.

Hmm. There's always that to consider as well. It is true that these talk-show guys are marketing a brand in a business where controversy sells. People tune in to hear yelling, not agreement.

Ducimus · 08-26-10, 04:06 PM

All I care to say right now is that ALL these talk show guys (and gal) are NOT doing the republican's any favors. From my point of view, all they're doing is riling people up, and radicalizing them to the extreme far right, where the religious right dwells. That's a massive turn off to me. That and rhetoric.

Seems like all i ever hear from the republican's/right wing is rhetoric. So in so is a comunist/socialist. So in so did this, so in so did that. I really don't give a rats ass what so in so did. I want to know what YOUR going to do, and HOW you plan on doing it. I don't care for more rhetoric. From this laymans point of view who really doesnt care for either party, the republicans are fragmented, seemingly have no singular purpose or goal other then to gain back lost political power, spew vomit, and seem to be increasingly radicalized, and extreme, - which as i mentioned is a big turn off.

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To counter that , ill say that the left is too bleeding heart for me at times as well. But If i had to vote for a left or right candidate right now, knowing nothing of the candidate himself? Id lean left. Not because i agree with left wing policies, but because they sound the most sane.

Oberon · 08-26-10, 04:17 PM

The Right wings seem to get more air time, I don't know, maybe they're louder than the Left, but Ducimus is correct, the more radical right the standard middle ground people see, the more they will be pushed left of center.
Of course, it works both ways, but all I've seen is 'Obama bad this' 'Obama destroying that' 'Obama will be the doom of us all' and after a while it kinda stops going in, you know, like when the ground gets saturated with rain and it starts running off. People hear the same thing day in day out, they're going to stop listening to it.

mookiemookie · 08-26-10, 04:22 PM

Will there be commemorative Glenn Beck gold coins given away?

Alky · 08-26-10, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

I mean honestly if he really believed half of that rubbish he rants about he would have been certified years ago.

What part of history is "rubbish"? Beck researches everything he "rants" about. Anyone is welcome to refute anything he says, but they can't. Not even the White House, he's had that red phone on his show and the WH knows the number, but they don't dispute anything either.

yubba · 08-26-10, 06:29 PM

The ones who don't want to hear the truth are the ones doin the stupid s--t, and what's wrong, believing in the constitution and following the rule of law. Liberalism = Socialism. If you aren't part of the solution , you're part of the problem. Check this 1 in 10 homes in foreclosure how about that for truth.

08-26-10, 06:52 PM

Glenn Beck is indeed a complete nutjob, unfortunately because he -famous- that means he can be as insane as he wants without getting thrown in a loony bin.

yubba · 08-26-10, 07:05 PM

If we didn't have these nut jobs, holding the so called political nut jobs feet to the fire , who will ?

mookiemookie · 08-26-10, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba

The ones who don't want to hear the truth are the ones doin the stupid s--t, and what's wrong, believing in the constitution and following the rule of law. Liberalism = Socialism. If you aren't part of the solution , you're part of the problem. Check this 1 in 10 homes in foreclosure how about that for truth.

Actually, Liberalism is the idea that political power should derive from a mandate from the voters through representative democracy, and the rejection of absolute monarchy and nobility.

But I guess that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker.

Bubblehead1980 · 08-26-10, 07:42 PM

Ducimus, the Republicans are supposed to put out a plan after labor day, they are working on it, something akin to the Contract with America so it won't just be so and so is bad vote Republican.

Having said that, I understand the religious right pushing you away, they are a great source of annoyance to me and make my party look bad but they have their right to be ignorant as well.I can't see how it'd drive someone that much to the left considering the road to ruin the Left has kept us on.The differences are very clear to me and perhaps will be to more after the GOP puts out their plan.

yubba · 08-26-10, 07:45 PM

One party rule is not a democracy , and the democratic party is out of control ,voted by liberals for liberals. Maybe they ought to read these bills before they pass them, or maybe you are ok with the crap that is going on in DC. Liberalism still = Socialism or communism yea, spread the wealth around take it out of my pocket and give it to Pedro the illegal, better yet to those mosques over seas.

Bubblehead1980 · 08-26-10, 08:01 PM

Well we are actually a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy.

I am not for one party control normally but since the Democratic Party has devolved into the Socialist Party for most part, the only current aleternative is the Republican Party which is undergoing a refreshing revolution to be more of the constitutional conservative party and is the only thing that can stop Obama for next two years.Of course the name will stay Republican and Democrats will stay Democrats in name.Perhaps after November the Dems will have a revolution in their party, oust the far left bats and perhaps offer us a decent alternative again.

If we had a decent democrat run for office I'd consider voting for him/her.Every Democrat, esp on national stage tend to associate with trash I just can't support.They pander to racist minority groups, unions, etc play class and race warfare etc

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yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	can't argue with that. The ones who don't want to hear the truth are the ones doin the stupid s--t, and what's wrong, believing in the constitution and following the rule of law. Liberalism = Socialism. If you aren't part of the solution , you're part of the problem. Check this 1 in 10 homes in foreclosure how about that for truth.

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yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	nutjobs? If we didn't have these nut jobs, holding the so called political nut jobs feet to the fire , who will ?

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08-26-10, 04:06 PM	#35
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	All I care to say right now is that ALL these talk show guys (and gal) are NOT doing the republican's any favors. From my point of view, all they're doing is riling people up, and radicalizing them to the extreme far right, where the religious right dwells. That's a massive turn off to me. That and rhetoric. Seems like all i ever hear from the republican's/right wing is rhetoric. So in so is a comunist/socialist. So in so did this, so in so did that. I really don't give a rats ass what so in so did. I want to know what YOUR going to do, and HOW you plan on doing it. I don't care for more rhetoric. From this laymans point of view who really doesnt care for either party, the republicans are fragmented, seemingly have no singular purpose or goal other then to gain back lost political power, spew vomit, and seem to be increasingly radicalized, and extreme, - which as i mentioned is a big turn off. edit: To counter that , ill say that the left is too bleeding heart for me at times as well. But If i had to vote for a left or right candidate right now, knowing nothing of the candidate himself? Id lean left. Not because i agree with left wing policies, but because they sound the most sane.

08-26-10, 04:17 PM	#36
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	The Right wings seem to get more air time, I don't know, maybe they're louder than the Left, but Ducimus is correct, the more radical right the standard middle ground people see, the more they will be pushed left of center. Of course, it works both ways, but all I've seen is 'Obama bad this' 'Obama destroying that' 'Obama will be the doom of us all' and after a while it kinda stops going in, you know, like when the ground gets saturated with rain and it starts running off. People hear the same thing day in day out, they're going to stop listening to it.

08-26-10, 06:52 PM	#40
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Glenn Beck is indeed a complete nutjob, unfortunately because he -famous- that means he can be as insane as he wants without getting thrown in a loony bin.

08-26-10, 07:42 PM	#43
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,187 Downloads: 621 Uploads: 44	Ducimus, the Republicans are supposed to put out a plan after labor day, they are working on it, something akin to the Contract with America so it won't just be so and so is bad vote Republican. Having said that, I understand the religious right pushing you away, they are a great source of annoyance to me and make my party look bad but they have their right to be ignorant as well.I can't see how it'd drive someone that much to the left considering the road to ruin the Left has kept us on.The differences are very clear to me and perhaps will be to more after the GOP puts out their plan.

08-26-10, 07:45 PM	#44
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	One party rule is not a democracy , and the democratic party is out of control ,voted by liberals for liberals. Maybe they ought to read these bills before they pass them, or maybe you are ok with the crap that is going on in DC. Liberalism still = Socialism or communism yea, spread the wealth around take it out of my pocket and give it to Pedro the illegal, better yet to those mosques over seas.

08-26-10, 08:01 PM	#45
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,187 Downloads: 621 Uploads: 44	Well we are actually a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. I am not for one party control normally but since the Democratic Party has devolved into the Socialist Party for most part, the only current aleternative is the Republican Party which is undergoing a refreshing revolution to be more of the constitutional conservative party and is the only thing that can stop Obama for next two years.Of course the name will stay Republican and Democrats will stay Democrats in name.Perhaps after November the Dems will have a revolution in their party, oust the far left bats and perhaps offer us a decent alternative again. If we had a decent democrat run for office I'd consider voting for him/her.Every Democrat, esp on national stage tend to associate with trash I just can't support.They pander to racist minority groups, unions, etc play class and race warfare etc