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Old 01-21-09, 09:25 PM   #31
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The Dude has as many NUKES as we do, so we cant just walk in and slap him.
That is no longer the case. However, let's just say he still has enough to where it still doesn't matter. That might be a better way to put it.

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Old 01-22-09, 02:23 PM   #32
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How about america shuvs its big nose out of russian problems and deals with its own for a change, dont you just hate people who try to get involved in a problem that has naff all to do with them.
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Old 01-22-09, 02:29 PM   #33
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How about america shuvs its big nose out of russian problems and deals with its own for a change, dont you just hate people who try to get involved in a problem that has naff all to do with them.
Welcome to global politics :p
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Old 01-22-09, 02:29 PM   #34
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Well, I think the stereotypical view of Russia is becoming dangerously accurate.
The stereotypical view of Russia is wrong. I lived there for a good few years.

If you believed everything the press read you'd think Russians couldn't walk out their front doors for some reason or another.

It was interesting actually how in the early 90's Russia was poortrayed as some sort of Wild East with a sense of the romantic about it (a la the wild west) a myth that I think has been perpetuated and turned into something darker.
Good point i think you should visit the country it is nice and yeah the people do complain about it.
But i dare you to go upto one of them and slag the country off i bet you get an all to gether diffrent responce from them.

These people mind thier own buisness something americans find hard to do hence why they get thier nose put out of place alot of the time, russia has a potential and i think they have the ability to use it, and win.
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Old 01-22-09, 04:10 PM   #35
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Just took a closer view to a head line of this topic
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Two more critics of Vladimir Putin take bullets in the head
Neal as you have called this topic in such way, can you tell us in what part those two were critisising Putin's administration?
I copied the title from the article.

Anyway, my point was not to slag off on Russia, it was to highlight the hypocracy of the peaceniks, activists, and nonstop critics of the US. They are mum about the real evils in the world. As for Russia, I've been there many times, they have a long history of this stuff, it's no surprise.


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How about america shuvs its big nose out of russian problems and deals with its own for a change, dont you just hate people who try to get involved in a problem that has naff all to do with them.
haha, like all the non-Americans here who constantly talk about US business, US economy, US politics, US military, etc etc etc
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We don't have time to fight cuddly Mr Putin, and Chavez, Kim Il jung, or Akmehadexahdez at the same time....those guys don't merit our attention...
No, we really don't. And we don't have the money either. We're over $10 trillion in debt to Japan and China, and to top it off, our military is dwarfed by the size of Russia's and nothing compared to Korea's fanaticism. Besides that, our economy is still unstable, we haven't even begun pulling troops out of Iraq, and we have just gotten a new president. We've got enough to worry about at the moment. How do you expect to be the world's policeman if you don't solve your own problems first?
You're right, I didn't phrase that very well. I did not mean to imply the US govt should fight those tyrants, I meant that the people who squeal about how bad Bush/the US is never make a peep about the real problems, like these dictators and their human rights abuses. The only time these people mentioned Saddam Hussein was when the US called him to account.
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We're over $10 trillion in debt to Japan and China
I call bull to that statement. Care to back it up?
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We're over $10 trillion in debt to Japan and China
I call bull to that statement. Care to back it up?
It is bull. It's called a "trade deficit". Hardly debt.
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We're over $10 trillion in debt to Japan and China
I call bull to that statement. Care to back it up?
It is bull. It's called a "trade deficit". Hardly debt.
Maybe not, he might be talking about government bonds or something I suppose...
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We're over $10 trillion in debt to Japan and China
I call bull to that statement. Care to back it up?
Sure thing August.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-t...l_b_67196.html

Oh, here's a few things on the Chinese and Japanese. In total, lenders from Japan and China hold 47% of our debts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

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We're over $10 trillion in debt to Japan and China
I call bull to that statement. Care to back it up?
Sure thing August.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-t...l_b_67196.html

Oh, here's a few things on the Chinese and Japanese. In total, lenders from Japan and China hold 47% of our debts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

But neither of those links actually confirm your statement SH. Please show me where it says that we owe $10 trillion dollars to Japan and China.
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We owe $10 trillion total, and China and Japan account for 47% of the said amount. I never said the $10 trillion was totally to China and Japan, though.
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We owe $10 trillion total, and China and Japan account for 47% of the said amount. I never said the $10 trillion was totally to China and Japan, though.
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We're over $10 trillion in debt to Japan and China
That is a fairly direct statement and now you are saying it's actually less than half of that?
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The point was we have $10 trillion worth of debt total, and China and Japan account for most of it. Glad we cleared that up. Now, back to the topic.
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We're over $10 trillion in debt to Japan and China
I call bull to that statement. Care to back it up?
It is bull. It's called a "trade deficit". Hardly debt.
Federal debt is $10 trillion.
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