The Evangelical War on Science & More (Graphic Content)

[Stealth Hunter]

Scary stuff. These people and their devotion to their dusty book pose a serious threat to freethinkers the world over. I felt really sorry for the little kids who were being fed this information. Hope everyone also made a close note of the video when it stated that 54 million Americans over the age of 18 do not believe in evolution.

How can someone get the idea that the world is 6,000 years old?

Here's the other video I wanted to show you. I present to you JESUS CAMP (part 1):



I really don't know if the people who teach this stuff actually believe it OR if they are just in it for all the money that can be made.

[SUBMAN1]

I'd let them attack it into the ground so that we can rebuild it from the ground up without the likes of the IPCC! Its all become a machine, not a science, so some form of shake up needs to happen.

Even NASA is abandoning science to join the machine.

-S

[nikimcbee]

Just for you SH:





:rotfl:

[nikimcbee]

Morefrom the gangsta rapper mc hawking (warning bad words)

[Ishmael]

What I find most ironic is that the Republicans claim to be champions of laissez-faire capitalism and hold Ayn Rand as one of their philosophic mentors. All the while they have formed an anti-rationalist alliance between the Religious Right(Rand's Mystics of Faith"Do as we say because God said so.") and the Neocons(Rand's Mystics of Muscle,"Do as we say or we'll beat/torture/kill you.") building the edifice of the Corporate/National Security Police Surveillance State.

Bush and his henchmen have accomplished in 7 years what Osama bin-Laden couldn't do in 700.

[Ducimus]

This thread oughta go well.

As strongly as i feel about this subject, ill have to recuse myself.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Scary stuff. These people and their devotion to their dusty book pose a serious threat to freethinkers the world over. I felt really sorry for the little kids who were being fed this information.

I hear ya Stealth....Scary Stuff huh?

Hey...some one made this video just for you...

Them Christian kids sure are learning some ...

You damn Dirty Apes!...lol I love people like you Stealth I really Do....have a great day.



Does God Exist - Things to Consider
Once you're ready to ask the question, "does God exist?" here are a few observations to consider as you begin your search for an objective answer:

• Discoveries in astronomy have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that the universe did, in fact, have a beginning. There was a single moment of creation.
• Advances in molecular biology have revealed vast amounts of information encoded in each and every living cell, and molecular biologists have discovered thousands upon thousands of exquisitely designed machines at the molecular level. Information requires intelligence and design requires a designer.
• Biochemists and mathematicians have calculated the odds against life arising from non-life naturally via unintelligent processes. The odds are astronomical. In fact, scientists aren't even sure if life could have evolved naturally via unintelligent processes. If life did not arise by chance, how did it arise?
• The universe is ordered by natural laws. Where did these laws come from and what purpose do they serve?
• Philosophers agree that a transcendent Law Giver is the only plausible explanation for an objective moral standard. So, ask yourself if you believe in right and wrong and then ask yourself why. Who gave you your conscience? Why does it exist?
• People of every race, creed, color, and culture, both men and women, young and old, wise and foolish, from the educated to the ignorant, claim to have personally experienced something of the supernatural. So what are we supposed to do with these prodigious accounts of divine healing, prophetic revelation, answered prayer, and other miraculous phenomena? Ignorance and imagination may have played a part to be sure, but is there something more?

If your curiosity has been piqued and you desire to look into this matter further, we recommend that you consider the world's assortment of so-called Holy Books. If God does exist, has He revealed Himself? And if He has revealed Himself, surely He exists...



Does God Exist - A Philosophical Issue
Before we ask the question "Does God exist?" we first have to deal with our philosophical predispositions. If, for example, I am already dedicated to the philosophical idea that nothing can exist outside of the natural realm (i.e. there can be no supernatural God), no amount of evidence could convince me otherwise. Asking the question "does God exist?" would be pointless. My answer would be "No, He doesn't," regardless of whether God truly exists or not. The question would be impossible to answer from an evidentiary standpoint simply because anything which God might have done (that is, any supernatural act which might serve as evidence for His existence) would have to be explained away in terms of natural causes, not because we know what those natural causes could possibly be, but simply because a supernatural God is not allowed to exist!

Dr. Richard Lewontin, the Alexander Agassiz Professor of Zoology at Harvard University, put it like this: "It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counterintuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door" (Richard Lewontin, "Billions and Billions of Demons," New York Review of Books, January 9, 1997, p. 28).



So tell me resident Subsimmers....who are the closed minded..? I know people from all categories fall into this trap...not all Christians are closed as I would hope not all Athesiests are closed to new ideas...funny how it plays out though.

[Skybird]

Secular world is a sane world.



"Your soul does not need cleansing, becasue it is not dirty, and anyone who tells you different is telling you for their benefit - not for yours."

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Secular world is a sane world.



"Your soul does not need cleansing, becasue it is not dirty, and anyone who tells you different is telling you for their benefit - not for yours."

Wow...your exactly right Skybird..it's not for you if you see no need...more power to u.

Mark 2
[16] And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
[17] When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Reap...

[Enigma]

"The bigotry of the un-believer is nearly as funny to me as the bigotry of the believer" -Albert Einstein

[Wolfehunter]

You know something I don't care what god people believe in. I don't. Just don't try to put that crap on me and my family. You believe in demons and angels and vampires, ghost and goblins good for you. Stay away from me.

I don't have to say that often here to someone. Only happened once about 8 years ago. Some crazed old lady tried to do and excersism on my wife because she claim my wife was possessed in the middle of the parking lot to a pharmacy.:rotfl: Too bad she was a woman. If it was a guy I would have sent him one way ticket to a hospital.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Enigma

"The bigotry of the un-believer is nearly as funny to me as the bigotry of the believer" -Albert Einstein

I can find no proof he ever said this. It is a lie.

-S

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Scary stuff. These people and their devotion to their dusty book pose a serious threat to freethinkers the world over. I felt really sorry for the little kids who were being fed this information.

I hear ya Stealth....Scary Stuff huh?

Hey...some one made this video just for you...

Them Christian kids sure are learning some ...

You damn Dirty Apes!...lol I love people like you Stealth I really Do....have a great day.



Does God Exist - Things to Consider
Once you're ready to ask the question, "does God exist?" here are a few observations to consider as you begin your search for an objective answer:

• Discoveries in astronomy have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that the universe did, in fact, have a beginning. There was a single moment of creation.
  

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  Advances in molecular biology have revealed vast amounts of information encoded in each and every living cell, and molecular biologists have discovered thousands upon thousands of exquisitely designed machines at the molecular level. Information requires intelligence and design requires a designer.

  Inteligent design and irreducible complexity are both PRATT's. Why do people keep bringing up stuff debunked countless times over

  Biochemists and mathematicians have calculated the odds against life arising from non-life naturally via unintelligent processes. The odds are astronomical. In fact, scientists aren't even sure if life could have evolved naturally via unintelligent processes. If life did not arise by chance, how did it arise?

  The universe is ordered by natural laws. Where did these laws come from and what purpose do they serve?

  I don't know, do you?

  Philosophers agree that a transcendent Law Giver is the only plausible explanation for an objective moral standard. So, ask yourself if you believe in right and wrong and then ask yourself why. Who gave you your conscience? Why does it exist?

  Giving your subjective opinion as an objective view, nice going there champ.

  People of every race, creed, color, and culture, both men and women, young and old, wise and foolish, from the educated to the ignorant, claim to have personally experienced something of the supernatural. So what are we supposed to do with these prodigious accounts of divine healing, prophetic revelation, answered prayer, and other miraculous phenomena? Ignorance and imagination may have played a part to be sure, but is there something more?

Wishful thinking is niceNow then, I await your response with cited sources to back up your claims, this should be entertaining.

[August]

Wow yet another anti-religion thread from Silent Hunter. It's becoming a weekly thing.

[Tchocky]

Wouldn't call it anti-religion