2012-13 Subsim NFL thread (Mayan calendar edition) - Page 29

BossMark · 01-14-13, 06:17 AM

That Tom Brady some player isn't he

ReallyDedPoet · 01-14-13, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I have Atlanta picked to win the whole thing for our office pool, so we'll see what happens.

Defense I think will be the difference in this one. So I give the edge to San Francisco. Should be a good one though. Nice overview here: Here

AVGWarhawk · 01-14-13, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark

That Tom Brady some player isn't he

He is relentless.

But not invincible

The Raven's kicker won it for them last season!

AVGWarhawk · 01-14-13, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

The key is consistently getting in Brady's grill, be it disrupting, hurrying-up or sacking him. Easier said than done though as he adapts so well to what comes his way

Need to protect against the short throws. Plus, once caught by the receiver, protect against their running. They were shucking and jiving against the Texan yesterday gaining yards at will.

Takeda Shingen · 01-14-13, 09:37 AM

A quarterback, regardless of individual quality, is only as good as his O-line, and New England has a very good one.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...true&Submit=Go

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

Defense I think will be the difference in this one. So I give the edge to San Francisco. Should be a good one though. Nice overview here: Here

It wasn't last Saturday, and I don't think it will be this time either.

mookiemookie · 01-14-13, 10:41 AM

Tom Brady is the best answer to the old "defense wins championships" canard. If you can blow the other team out and win 52-17, I'll take that all day long over a team that wins every game 14-7. If you're playing that way, you're always one mistake away from losing.

AVGWarhawk · 01-14-13, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

If you can blow the other team out and win 52-17, I'll take that all day long over a team that wins every game 14-7. If you're playing that way, you're always one mistake away from losing.

I think everyone would take that!

Takeda Shingen · 01-14-13, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Tom Brady is the best answer to the old "defense wins championships" canard. If you can blow the other team out and win 52-17, I'll take that all day long over a team that wins every game 14-7. If you're playing that way, you're always one mistake away from losing.

That kind of play is becoming forced, as you don't see a whole lot of low-scoring affairs like you used to. The number of games where the losing team scores 20 or more points has increased dramatically within the last decade. Whether that is due to an increase of 'wide open' offensive play, a decline in defensive aptitude or a combination of both I don't know. What I do know is that when I started playing fantasy football I valued my team defense, and that payed dividends. This past season, I drafted my defense in the 15th round and still finished 3rd out of 16.

Bottom line; I agree. Defense doesn't matter like it used to.

ReallyDedPoet · 01-14-13, 11:33 AM

Much of what you are saying Tak I think relates to the NFL becoming much more of a passing game. The traditional run game has been on the decline for awhile. With many teams it is more used to set up play action schemes.

AVGWarhawk · 01-14-13, 11:39 AM

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Much of what you are saying Tak I think relates to the NFL becoming much more of a passing game. The traditional run game has been on the decline for awhile. With many teams it is more used to set up play action schemes.

Ray Rice begs to differ.

Takeda Shingen · 01-14-13, 11:45 AM

I don't know, Ray Rice only had four games during the 2012 regular season where he rushed for over 100 yards and only six games where he had 20 or more carries, which used to be the gold standard for a team relying on the run. Even good RBs don't seem to be used like they were. Granted, he's still a 1000-yard rusher, but barely.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelo...11289/ray-rice

It would seem that there is something to RDP's statement.

ReallyDedPoet · 01-14-13, 01:07 PM

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Ray Rice begs to differ.

No question the run is still an important part of the game, you could never not have it, it keeps the defense guessing and having to account for it, but the run has become secondary.

AVGWarhawk · 01-14-13, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

No question the run is still an important part of the game, you could never not have it, it keeps the defense guessing and having to account for it, but the run has become secondary.

It has to become primary for the Ravens. The stats for Flacco say otherwise but watching Joe waffle the ball time and time again one begins to wonder just how we win a majority of the time.

ReallyDedPoet · 01-14-13, 02:10 PM

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It has to become primary for the Ravens. The stats for Flacco say otherwise but watching Joe waffle the ball time and time again one begins to wonder just how we win a majority of the time.

I agree on that one.

But coming back to Joe, he seems to just to do enough to win. To this point that has been his MO

AVGWarhawk · 01-14-13, 02:12 PM

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But coming back to Joe, he seems to just to do enough to win. To this point that has been his MO

It seems to be working for him.

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I don't know, Ray Rice only had four games during the 2012 regular season where he rushed for over 100 yards and only six games where he had 20 or more carries, which used to be the gold standard for a team relying on the run. Even good RBs don't seem to be used like they were. Granted, he's still a 1000-yard rusher, but barely. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelo...11289/ray-rice It would seem that there is something to RDP's statement.