Pastor weighing plans to burn Qurans amid U.S. warnings - Page 20

tater · 09-18-10, 06:40 PM

It's explicitly protected, political speech. Being charged for it is without question infringement of his freedom of expression.

Gerald · 04-17-11, 10:43 AM

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — The pastor who stoked violence in Afghanistan earlier this month by burning a Koran in March produced a recording on Saturday that he said proved he was deceived last September when he agreed to cancel plans to burn 200 copies of the Koran.

The pastor, Terry Jones, played the recording — which he said was made on Sept. 9 on his assistant’s iPhone — of a conversation between him and Imam Muhammad Musri, an Islamic leader in Florida. At the time, Mr. Musri was trying to persuade Mr. Jones not to burn the Korans as part of a demonstration on Sept. 11.

After the Sept. 9 meeting, Mr. Jones announced that as part of a deal brokered by Mr. Musri to relocate a proposed Islamic center near ground zero in New York, he would not burn the 200 Korans. But almost immediately after the announcement, Mr. Musri, who had attended a news conference with Mr. Jones, told reporters that he had made no such deal and no such promise. The pastor, he said, had backed down because of pressure from President Obama and the rest of the world.

“This does definitely prove he lied to the news media and has lied the whole time,” Mr. Jones said from behind his desk, on which rested a pistol, a Bible and a rental copy of the film “Se7en.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/us...html?ref=world

Update Record, April 16, 2011

the_tyrant · 04-17-11, 10:58 AM

hmm, I wonder if the guy will end up imitating se7en

04-17-11, 11:07 AM

Do you think Jones was a little upset at Musri saying the pastor was the same as Anjem Choudray?
So that would be a small minded bigot with twisted religious views no real following and a insane desire to get on the news by announcing dumb stunts.

Come to think of it are Choudray and Jones just a pair of dumb stunts?

yubba · 04-17-11, 08:59 PM

Gee burning is so old school, how about thrown into a wood chipper and blown up a pigs butt.

tater · 04-19-11, 08:23 AM

Lady Gaga apparently has a song considered "blasphemous" by the Catholic League. When the inevitable murders take place (blasphemy is "fighting words, right?), will she be blamed for her blasphemy, or will the press blame the poor people incited to violence by her lack of respect?

AVGWarhawk · 04-19-11, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tater

Lady Gaga apparently has a song considered "blasphemous" by the Catholic League. When the inevitable murders take place (blasphemy is "fighting words, right?), will she be blamed for her blasphemy, or will the press blame the poor people incited to violence by her lack of respect?

Lady Gaga only does what she does for publicity and gaining market share for her crap music. It is all about album sales for Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta

04-17-11, 10:43 AM	#287
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Pastor Who Burned Koran Says He Was Duped Into Holding Back GAINESVILLE, Fla. — The pastor who stoked violence in Afghanistan earlier this month by burning a Koran in March produced a recording on Saturday that he said proved he was deceived last September when he agreed to cancel plans to burn 200 copies of the Koran. The pastor, Terry Jones, played the recording — which he said was made on Sept. 9 on his assistant’s iPhone — of a conversation between him and Imam Muhammad Musri, an Islamic leader in Florida. At the time, Mr. Musri was trying to persuade Mr. Jones not to burn the Korans as part of a demonstration on Sept. 11. After the Sept. 9 meeting, Mr. Jones announced that as part of a deal brokered by Mr. Musri to relocate a proposed Islamic center near ground zero in New York, he would not burn the 200 Korans. But almost immediately after the announcement, Mr. Musri, who had attended a news conference with Mr. Jones, told reporters that he had made no such deal and no such promise. The pastor, he said, had backed down because of pressure from President Obama and the rest of the world. “This does definitely prove he lied to the news media and has lied the whole time,” Mr. Jones said from behind his desk, on which rested a pistol, a Bible and a rental copy of the film “Se7en.” http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/us...html?ref=world Update Record, April 16, 2011 __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

04-19-11, 08:23 AM	#291
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Lady Gaga apparently has a song considered "blasphemous" by the Catholic League. When the inevitable murders take place (blasphemy is "fighting words, right?), will she be blamed for her blasphemy, or will the press blame the poor people incited to violence by her lack of respect? __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

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09-18-10, 06:40 PM	#286
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It's explicitly protected, political speech. Being charged for it is without question infringement of his freedom of expression.

04-17-11, 10:58 AM	#288
the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	hmm, I wonder if the guy will end up imitating se7en

04-17-11, 11:07 AM	#289
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Do you think Jones was a little upset at Musri saying the pastor was the same as Anjem Choudray? So that would be a small minded bigot with twisted religious views no real following and a insane desire to get on the news by announcing dumb stunts. Come to think of it are Choudray and Jones just a pair of dumb stunts?

04-17-11, 08:59 PM	#290
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Gee burning is so old school, how about thrown into a wood chipper and blown up a pigs butt.