Israel will have to act on Iran if UN can't

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I think Europe needs to get off their butts and help. The US won't do it alone (and bear all the criticism again).

Yes, this has to be a "world faces......" sort of thing.

But Europe will continue to cower.

[Happy Times]

And the dominos fall. Soon everybody is nuked in ME. http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmu...8-16&type=News

[lesrae]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

But Europe will continue to cower.

Nice - I'm sure the families of the dead British troops in Iraq will appreciate that one.

[Sixpack]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Yes, this has to be a "world faces......" sort of thing.

But Europe will continue to cower.

That's ofcourse what I meant.

"I am with him ... in thought"

Gotta feel aweful to be American or Jew these last 3 decades.
This may sound sarcastic, but you know better than that. I want Europe, Australia, USA (and Turkey and India can play along as well) to put the squeeze on Iran and make the inevitable attack a feelgood 'brothers in arms' kind of event

If China and Russia would protest: Screw 'em. We can do without them !

[Sixpack]

Originally Posted by lesrae

Nice - I'm sure the families of the dead British troops in Iraq will appreciate that one.

Darn, you're right. What a waste of good lives with that attitude.

[Sixpack]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

And the dominos fall. Soon everybody is nuked in ME. http://www.euractiv.com/Article?tcmu...8-16&type=News

Turkey calls nuclear power its "utmost priority"

In Short:

Turkey is reviving its plans to build new nuclear power plants. Meanwhile, Iran is considering shifting parts of its own controversial nuclear activities to Turkish soil.

Darm Europe is too close for comfort if you ask me.

Pre emptive ! Pre emptive !
Pre emptive ! Let me hear ya !

[lesrae]

Originally Posted by Sixpack

Pre emptive ! Pre emptive !
Pre emptive ! Let me hear ya !

[Vinay]

A war is not going to take place. That's what i believe. They may again try the Russian proposal. But if Iran is adamant, then sanction will be placed on them. With each passing day Iran will get weaker and weaker. And then they will strike. But the main concern is the bomb. If putting sanction is preventing them from going ahead in the nuclear field, then that is the best method. And even after the sanction they are developing nuclear weapons, strke can be called.

[Sixpack]

Originally Posted by lesrae

That's what these billion $ machines were designed for, is it not ?
So why not use them ?!

[Sixpack]

Originally Posted by Vinay

A war is not going to take place. That's what i believe. They may again try the Russian proposal. But if Iran is adamant, then sanction will be placed on them. With each passing day Iran will get weaker and weaker. And then they will strike. But the main concern is the bomb. If putting sanction is preventing them from going ahead in the nuclear field, then that is the best method. And even after the sanction they are developing nuclear weapons, strke can be called.

Iran has seen the UN's impotence all too clear with N-Korea and will forge ahead until stopped decisively. All else is an utter waste of good time, only profitable for politicians and news media.

Even an infant can see the Iranian president is a lunatic in the Saddam category.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by lesrae

Nice - I'm sure the families of the dead British troops in Iraq will appreciate that one.

Obviously it was not my intent to include those whose 24x7 lives are anything but cowering. And that goes for the living and the brave just the same.

Stop making such absurd assuumptions from a single sentence comment on a game forum, for heavens sake!

Yet, I do not equate Tony Blair's current diplomatic and political manouvers and those of the UK government as being describable as brave. But so far, the UK pretty much bests anything the continent has to offer.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Sixpack

Iran has seen the UN's impotence all too clear

Iran even blatantly admits it - behind closed doors, of course.

And to think they gave the IAEA's conniver a Nobel Prize.

[Sixpack]

From the article:

"From the outset, the Americans kept telling the Europeans, 'The Iranians are lying and deceiving you and they have not told you everything'. The Europeans used to respond, 'We trust them'," he said.

Totally shameful and of a high Chamberlain (*)degree (peace for our time), but what can you expect from a bunch of wimpy diplomats who are given the VIP treatment and are all pampered into mental submission ? Spineless fairies each and everyone of them.
PS Lady, rest assured: we know where you stand, never mind the teasing

(*)
Quote: My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time.


Chamberlain is perhaps the most ill-regarded British Prime Minister of the 20th century, largely because of his policy of appeasement towards Nazi Germany regarding the abandonment of Czechoslovakia to Hitler at Munich in 1938.

WTH do they teach those diplomats in history classes ? To fornicate ?

[The Avon Lady]

Some things never change.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Vinay

It is impossible for Israel to attack Iran. This can only be done by the U.S. I checked using the map and found that if Israel is using Military aircraft to attack Iran, then they have to fly over Gulf or aquaba, Red Sea, Enter Arabian sea and then go and attack Iran which is nearly impossibe. Even if they want to fly over Iraq first they have to fly over Saudi Arabia or Jordan, or Syria. Another way is to go through Turkey and attack Iran.

If we see any attack by Israel, then it will be by using Ballastic Missiles or Cruise missiles fired from ships or subs.

And if the U.S is doing it, they can do a Iraq on Iran. They can enter Iran from Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey and send carrier battle groups to the Arabian sea and the Persian Gulf.

Uhhhh are you familiar with In-flight Refueling? The IAF once attacked terrorist targets in Tunisia believe it or not. My rough estimates say that could get them over the Black Sea, if they top off their tanks their they can fly over Georgia and Armenia (or Turkey but I assume the others have less of an air defense that could harass them) and hit their targets in northern Iran then egress back the same way and get another fill up and head for home. If each of the F-16s or F-4s are armed with the minimum of ordnance (no more than 1 or 2 bombs) it should be possible, F-15s can provide the air cover so the larger AAMs are unnecessary. Hell they could even fly one way and ditch over the ocean and be picked up by a ship or submarine. The word ‘impossible’ has no meaning to the IAF.