35th anniversary of the loss of the Space Shuttle Challenger - Page 2

Jeff-Groves · 01-30-21, 11:06 AM

I was 28 at the time.
I lived and worked near West Palm Beach, Florida.
That's around 150 miles south of the launch site.

I was with a group of people outside of the cafeteria at a training center
near Delray Beach. We were watching the launch as we could see the smoke as the Shuttles went up.

So We saw the tragedy with our own eyes.
Not something I'll ever forget witnessing.

Aktungbby · 01-30-21, 01:54 PM

The one thing that still sticks in my mind is the picture of school teacher/astronaut Christa McCauliff's

mom, Grace, looking up in stunned bewilderment at the launch. It gave me chills 35 years ago and still does to this day: the more so as I have a vivacious motivated only daughter and cannot even fathom such a loss.

Grace passed away in 2018 at age 95

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The story about a mother rising up and carrying her daughter’s torch, basically until the day she died, on Nov. 8. The story about the woman who went back to college and earned her teaching degree after her children had grown up and left the house. The story about the public speaker, traveling the country to stress the importance of well-funded school systems.
The story about Grace.
“She said Christa would have been delighted to see what we had done to memorialize her,” Gerulskis told me. “She was impressed. She would come to events and she wanted so much to share what her daughter would have shared if Christa had survived that trip. (Grace) could communicate with the smallest children and the older people, in their 80s and 90s, as well.”

Commander Wallace · 01-31-21, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes. And of all environments man can go into, space is the most hostile and lethal and unforgivable one. Everything there is tries to kill you quickly or in a longer run.

While I agree with you, there are other places just as unforgiving. Our own oceans and seas can be a dangerous place for those unprepared. Even the great lakes of the U.S can be a dangerous and treacherous place, even for those " well seasoned. "

The crew of the iron ore freighter Edmund Fitzgerald found this out the hard way when it sank in bad weather on November 10, 1975 on Lake Superior. The Fitzgerald encountered hurricane force winds and 27 foot seas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Edmund_Fitzgerald

Skybird · 01-31-21, 04:37 PM

I fully understand what you aim at, and I agree, but nothing is as lethal as spoacew, me thinks. In water, cold or stormy, you still float and can swim, if only for a minute or two. I also think of the deep sea, the pressure. I experienced the "deep desert". But space? The cold, the radiation, the mere light from the sun, vacuum, absence of anything life-supporting, micro meteorites, and whatever else. Nothing is as unforgiving, as space.

Jeff-Groves · 01-31-21, 04:37 PM

71% of Earth is water.
5% of that has been explored.
Falling in the water is like brushing the edge of Space. One can survive given the high altitude jumps done.
Going deep in the oceans offer a different death, but still deadly!

Platapus · 01-31-21, 06:04 PM

It may be easier to explore space then the depths of our oceans.

Jeff-Groves · 01-31-21, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

It may be easier to explore space then the depths of our oceans.

You may be right given there are no currents nor volcanoes in Space.
And I doubt there are large Space Sharks and such to deal with.

Commander Wallace · 02-01-21, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

It may be easier to explore space then the depths of our oceans.

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

You may be right given there are no currents nor volcanoes in Space. And I doubt there are large Space Sharks and such to deal with.

You are both more than likely right as the deepest and most remote parts of our Oceans can only be explored with specially prepared drones.

Jimbuna · 02-01-21, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Nothing is as unforgiving, as space.

You've obviously never met my wife!!

Catfish · 02-01-21, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

You've obviously never met my wife!!

"And now.. for something completely different"

Commander Wallace · 02-01-21, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

You've obviously never met my wife!!

I feel your pain.

mapuc · 02-01-21, 05:44 PM

Our space adventure can be compared with a little baby who tries to take their first step. In the beginning the little child fall but in the end they will master the skill of walking.

The same with our space adventure-In the beginning there will be failure even death-But in the end we will overcome these childhood diseases.

Markus

Buddahaid · 02-01-21, 08:16 PM

The oceans are far less radioactive.

Platapus · 02-02-21, 06:58 AM

Humans can survive in space in a craft with Mylar sides. 5-8 pounds of pressure difference.

In the oceans? The pressure is a wee bit larger.

Catfish · 02-02-21, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The oceans are far less radioactive.

Fukushima, LaHague, Windscale and some others do all to solve this inequality.

01-31-21, 04:37 PM	#19
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,800 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I fully understand what you aim at, and I agree, but nothing is as lethal as spoacew, me thinks. In water, cold or stormy, you still float and can swim, if only for a minute or two. I also think of the deep sea, the pressure. I experienced the "deep desert". But space? The cold, the radiation, the mere light from the sun, vacuum, absence of anything life-supporting, micro meteorites, and whatever else. Nothing is as unforgiving, as space. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-31-21, 06:04 PM	#21
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,432 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It may be easier to explore space then the depths of our oceans. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-01-21, 05:44 PM	#27
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,626 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Our space adventure can be compared with a little baby who tries to take their first step. In the beginning the little child fall but in the end they will master the skill of walking. The same with our space adventure-In the beginning there will be failure even death-But in the end we will overcome these childhood diseases. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

02-01-21, 08:16 PM	#28
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,336 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	The oceans are far less radioactive. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

02-02-21, 06:58 AM	#29
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,432 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Humans can survive in space in a craft with Mylar sides. 5-8 pounds of pressure difference. In the oceans? The pressure is a wee bit larger. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

01-30-21, 11:06 AM	#16
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,663 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	I was 28 at the time. I lived and worked near West Palm Beach, Florida. That's around 150 miles south of the launch site. I was with a group of people outside of the cafeteria at a training center near Delray Beach. We were watching the launch as we could see the smoke as the Shuttles went up. So We saw the tragedy with our own eyes. Not something I'll ever forget witnessing.

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