Is the poppy a political symbol?

[STEED]

I have to agree with my Prime Minister when she said FIFA should get its own house in order.

Bloody stinking corrupt load of pigs.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Its sports. Leave it alone.

It's smoke and mirrors to keep the masses catatonic no matter what shenanigans their gov'ts might get up to. You must have fanboy blinders on this one subject. lol

[Eichhörnchen]

The very idea that the poppy is a political symbol is preposterous. Next topic...

[Skybird]

Can we have German coloured armbinders on unification day? Rainbow armbinders for gay activists? Why was it a scandal when the fRench team years ago delayed starting whistle because some of their players openly displayed Muslim prayers on thew grass? Beware climate, we need players having climate warming stickers on their shirts. Oh, and Muslim clothing code for women already was allowed to break the rules last world tournament, one or two teams played in i think Nikabs, although the dress code is plan and simple.

Its not only important what the written statutes say, else you can give them up completely. Its also about leaving the sport - a sport. Want to remember the world war? Attend an according meeting before you go to the match.

And what has remembering a world war to do with attending a football match supposed to make fun and give excitement...? It does not match. Not one bit. Why not having a techno party to remember storming the beach of Normandy?

[Catfish]

Don't mention the war.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Don't mention the war.

[Jimbuna]

England will wear poppies against Scotland at Wembley despite Fifa ban, the FA confirms.

In a statement released on Wednesday night, the FA make it clear that the governing body intends to pay "an appropriate tribute to those who made the ultimate sacrifice".

"The poppy is an important symbol of remebrance and we do not believe it represents a political, religious or commercial message, nor does it relate to any one historical event," FA said.

"In keeping with the position agreed with Fifa back in 2011 and in what we believe is in accordance with Law 4, para 4, the FA intend to pay appropriate tribute to those who have made the ultimate sacrifice by having the England team wear black armbands bearing poppies in our fixture on Armistice Day."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a7393591.html

~SALUTE~

[Moonlight]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

The very idea that the poppy is a political symbol is preposterous. Next topic...

I disagree Mr Squirrel.

The poppy didn't start off as a political symbol but successive governments, the royal family, the media and the British establishment have turned it into one.
Whenever there's a conflict involving Britain, those knobheads above go spurring the masses on into a war frenzy of monumental proportions, (World War 1) culminating in the deaths of thousands of soldiers who have absolutely no idea why they were there and no idea why they were about to die.

When the war is eventually over, those same knobheads, safe in there beds far away from the bullets and shells, can go around back slapping each other while the rest of the country can begin to count up their dead. Every November those same knobheads remember 1 day out of 365 and not caring a toss if there broken war heroes are struggling financially, physically or mentally, but, the poppy tradition will carry on regardless, safe in the knowledge that the British establishment has got its back.

Its a political way of bringing the unwashed masses back into line, only a war can do this and governments will embrace one if they can get hold of one. You only have to go back to the Falklands to see this national fervour in action. Thatcher in the 80's was on her last legs as Prime Minister and she had no hope of saving herself or her government, that was until Argentina invaded those islands, and we all know how that ended, militarily and politically don't we......

So you see, there is a relationship between the poppy and politics, its just that people prefer not to see it.

[Oberon]

[Catfish]

@Moonlight: Imho an excellent post, thanks.

[Eichhörnchen]

He's got a point, hasn't he?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

England will wear poppies against Scotland at Wembley despite Fifa ban, the FA confirms.



http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a7393591.html

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Okay, lets log that match then as a defeat for both teams, and thus 0 points for both teams. And of course, no goals recognised. And done we are.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Okay, lets log that match then as a defeat for both teams, and thus 0 points for both teams. And of course, no goals recognised. And done we are.

Well, we could start it off as a stalemate, then have the opposition gain an advantage towards the end but then lose steam, then bring on the American team to end the game? Then hold a rematch in about twenty-five years?

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by mapuc

The American Olympic team was allowed to carry the Flag from 9/11 into the stadium at the opening ceremony

So why shouldn't football team from England and Scotland not be allowed to carry these armbands

It's only for 90+ minutes and only for this day 11th November.

Markus

Wear the poppy! And 'take a Knee' in protest for anything....political!

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

England will wear poppies against Scotland at Wembley despite Fifa ban, the FA confirms.



http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a7393591.html

~SALUTE~

That's sticking it to that corrupt FIFA.