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Old 02-05-16, 02:05 PM   #16
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No. Never. Russia loves him. State-propaganda guarantees that.
Putin the strong, Putin the determined, Putin the man!

Russians have a different mentality. "Being strong" matters extremely there and the weak have no place in that society. Before Putin, Russia was in a deep crisis, Yeltsin didn't exactly help in any way by making Russia a laughing matter for his awkward public appearances.

Putin came along, 'magic happened' -> Russia now stronk, Russia gud. Putin gud.
("Russia today" in a nutshell)
You haven't been to Russia then. I was they over the new year and was watching the news but to be honest I wouldn't say the news was pushing Putin all the time. Maybe I was watching the wrong news. It might surprise you but Putin is genuinely liked, propaganda or not. In the earlier part of the century before all this stuff blew up and Putin was still schmoozed by the West living standards were going up, the country was stable. My wife thinks he's ok and she watches more British news than Russian. Though I do get tired of this "Russian stronk" thing. Where did our start? It appears to be a lame attempt by people to be funny. Never heard a Russian speaking English pronounce strong as stronk.
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Old 02-05-16, 02:36 PM   #17
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I think it originally came from 'Serbia stronk - remove kebab'...
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Old 02-05-16, 04:08 PM   #18
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The news in Slovenia are mostly neutral regarding Russia.
You're lucky. We got pro-Washington news in here even more than the people from the united states in here. Of course the poor condition of the interests of France and of the French People badly defended in the country by pro-EU officials selling their *** to Brussels testifies of how much the current french republic doesn't fight for France, and won't be able to last long any more.

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We don't want to offend the western overlords and we don't want to offend the Russian investors.
The national climate is getting more anti-western and pro-russian by the day, so even an anti-russian news article is quickly going to be dismised as sucking up to Brussels/DC by the general population. Even if true.
Lucky you once again !
That's right, I've got to hear some anti-western/EU news myself too, but that was quickly hidden under a load of pro-Brussels/EU/western propaganda trumpeting how glorious we in Europe are supposed to feel with that TTIP lying just around the corner.

Personally, I hardly can believe how much my own country and its interests can be despised so much in the - local (french !) - news to the benefit of the West all the time, just as if France didn't have any importance so far and was no more than that american province devoid of any interest where the Allied landed to liberate Europe in WW2. To the point I've been unpleasantly talking about North America at times in the past, but I swear I've got nothing against the people from there.
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Old 02-06-16, 06:28 AM   #19
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Besides, we did all the 'Terrorists coming to kill us all' media back in the 2000s, and now the Bear is back, it makes much better drama.
Munich Security Conference next week! People have to understand more investment in defence is necessary. Terrorists with bomb belts are hard to fight with tanks and jet fighters, but a dangerous well armed Putin is ideal for the interests of the military-industrial-complex.
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Old 02-06-16, 08:52 AM   #20
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Munich Security Conference next week! People have to understand more investment in defence is necessary. Terrorists with bomb belts are hard to fight with tanks and jet fighters, but a dangerous well armed Putin is ideal for the interests of the military-industrial-complex.
We still remember the good old speech he did back in the day during this conference. I wonder how many people have heard about it.
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Old 02-06-16, 09:13 PM   #21
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Of course it was mentioned in our media, but not translated.
Putin was aggressive, threatening and terrifying - so the general tenor of our media.

http://archive.kremlin.ru/eng/speech...pe84779_118123
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