This is.....so sick!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Tell that to his father.

His father learned to sleep with one eye open and times are changing fast in terms of how the world perceives a soon to be nuclear capable North Korea....I doubt he has the mental ability/experience to adjust.

[Aktungbby]

Even in brainwashed N. Korea you can't last forever when you're the only 'fatguy' in the room!I understand from my NK sources that he sleeps poorly,,,having uncovered the Bilge's nefarious plot posing as Dennis Rodman!

[mapuc]

When it comes to NK and the ordinary people living there and the circumstances they live under it makes me so sad

What makes me..can't find the word I'm seeking.

Here's the reason:

(I can't remember the exact phrase US President Bush said)

No dictator should feel safe from hurting their citizens-If it was before Iraq war 1 or 2 I don't know.

So When will the citizen in NK see their governmen being hit by the Iron hand from USA and the west ?

Markus

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by mapuc

So When will the citizen in NK see their governmen being hit by the Iron hand from USA and the west ?

The problem with the Iron Hand is you break something with it, you gotta fix it. Certainly Iraq and Libya have shown the consequences of doing an incomplete job. Better not to start in my opinion. Crushing all the world's tyrants sounds satisfying, but you often have kill a whole lot of people you wish to liberate to get to them, and the resulting power vacuum and the law of unintended consequences have to be dealt with somehow. Plus, I don't think China and Russia would just stand idly by anymore than they did in 1950.

Anyway, the problem that the North Korean population faces, and what keeps them loyal to the country's leadership despite their deplorable conditions, is that they have no sense of relative deprivation. North Korea is an information bubble with little outside information allowed into the country. Internet access, literature, movies, or any medium of expression that does not expound the greatness of dear leader or the philosophy of Juche are prohibited; radio and television signals from outside the country are routinely jammed as well, so there not much in the way for the people to know what is going on outside the country other than what they are told by the state. Although this is changing, it's at a glacial pace. But barring some emergency we may have to content ourselves with that.

The North uses the U.S. as a prop to blame them for all of their domestic problems. So if there are food shortages or no electricity to power the country, outside of Pyongyang of course, it is not evidence of North Korea's failure, but rather the fault of the "imperialist aggressors". When people are fed such a daily barrage of propaganda, it is not hard to see why these people are so brainwashed.

[Catfish]

So they shoot at enemies with big guns. Disgusting, of course, but North Corea is a dictatorship.

How about killing one terrorist and, say, ten innocent civilians on a wedding party with a hellfire rocket, by some people via Ramstein, from a drone.
Bit of overkill as well, don't you think, AND done on FOREIGN territory.
Not disgusting, of course. We are the good.

[Oberon]

Also, China will never allow the US or South Korea to overthrow North Korea. The only state that can do that is China. The main reason is the North Korean/Chinese border, and the threat that a war would create millions of hungry Koreans fleeing across the border into China and deep-sixing the Chinese economy.
If Kim did get too out of control I'd expect a Chinese lead coup and a puppet government installation.

Also, let's face it, if North Korea was to reunite with South Korea it would completely wreck South Koreas economy. Just ask Catfish how difficult the reunification of Germany was. This would be a million times worse.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Also, China will never allow the US or South Korea to overthrow North Korea. The only state that can do that is China. The main reason is the North Korean/Chinese border, and the threat that a war would create millions of hungry Koreans fleeing across the border into China and deep-sixing the Chinese economy.
If Kim did get too out of control I'd expect a Chinese lead coup and a puppet government installation.

Also, let's face it, if North Korea was to reunite with South Korea it would completely wreck South Koreas economy. Just ask Catfish how difficult the reunification of Germany was. This would be a million times worse.

The German reunification I Remember well. all the problems West Germany had to face the years and decades after.

I also know the problem it would cause if the people in NK should be liberated. I guess the west had to start a massiv "Marshall Plan" like the one after WWII.

Markus

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by mapuc

The German reunification I Remember well. all the problems West Germany had to face the years and decades after.

I also know the problem it would cause if the people in NK should be liberated. I guess the west had to start a massiv "Marshall Plan" like the one after WWII.

Markus

Indeed...although the West is kind of in need of its own Marshall Plan, and I doubt very much could afford to bail out Korea.

[Platapus]

It would be hard to convince me that they would waste these weapons on a simple execution... if it was an execution. More likely they would just tie them up and kill them with a stick.

[Harvs]

They must have better images because i cant tell what any of that is.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Harvs

They must have better images because i cant tell what any of that is.

That. Apart from being confident that K. J. Un is capable of anything disgusting, where is the evidence. Sure not those blurry pxels?


but then, media cannot lie:

[Harvs]

Found an update for this story at http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/no...-1227353305151

[Jimbuna]

Also reported on UK tv earlier this morning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-32716749


Of the seven pallbearers at former leader Kim Jong-il's 2011 funeral, apart from King Jong-un, all have either been executed, have lost their jobs or have not been seen in some time.

[Aktungbby]

There must be some serious screening going on here; Some of these guys must be p/o'd enough or scared they'll be next to 'finish' the fat boy and he's standing with his back to them...Toga Toga BBY and the cracks are beginning to widen... Jeeze! he really IS the only fat guy in the room! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32716836 I suspect, like his father, Fatboy 'toes the line' in more 'weighs' than one!

[Oberon]

It's always possible that Kim is looking to surprise us by taking a more concilatory approach with the south, but he's got to remove the top half of his army and cow the rest since he knows he'd be couped if he tried.

Unlikely, but just a thought...