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Old 04-29-14, 06:52 PM   #16
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Well hell, if the F-35 is plagued with all these problems I wonder if Shenyang Aircraft Corporation is regretting their decision to build the J-31 using the plans they stole from Lockheed.
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Old 04-29-14, 07:46 PM   #17
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IIRC this problem has been around for a while now, the F-117 had the same problems.
There's also the problem that any stealth aircraft faces when it rains...
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Old 04-30-14, 05:45 AM   #18
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Old 04-30-14, 07:28 AM   #19
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IIRC this problem has been around for a while now, the F-117 had the same problems.
There's also the problem that any stealth aircraft faces when it rains...
I'd totally forgotten about that....mother nature is a hard one to overcome.
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Old 05-01-14, 05:12 PM   #20
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Is there anything the F-35 can do?
1. Cost a lot of money
2. Bring in businesses to specific congressional districts
3. Help congresscritters get re-elected
4. Feed the hungry maw of the MIC

From a congressional standpoint, a success story.

It's only money.
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Old 05-01-14, 05:20 PM   #21
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It's amazing isn't it? All that money wasted to make a plane's radar cross section the size of a wee little bird, when all you need is a radar homing missile to knock out the radar.
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Old 05-01-14, 07:12 PM   #22
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Well hell, if the F-35 is plagued with all these problems I wonder if Shenyang Aircraft Corporation is regretting their decision to build the J-31 using the plans they stole from Lockheed.

Crap! I think we messed up. The plans the Chinese stole were the real plans and the ones we used were the fake plans the Chinese were supposed to steal.

Awkward.
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Old 05-02-14, 11:44 AM   #23
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Crap! I think we messed up. The plans the Chinese stole were the real plans and the ones we used were the fake plans the Chinese were supposed to steal.

Awkward.
The day a country that is known for selling us millions of plastic three wheel scooters for our children can build a better stealth fighter jet, even if they did copy our plans using the internet, can go laugh at themselves when we shoot them down due to it's built in flaws.

This is not about cost overruns with fast food workers wanting $10 an hour ... this is about change in our basic way of American life.

by 2018 everything is going to cost from food to fuel to ship and airplane building.
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Old 05-02-14, 12:31 PM   #24
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... can build a better stealth fighter jet, even if they did copy our plans using the internet, can go laugh at themselves when we shoot them down due to it's built in flaws.
Now that is what i call intelligent foresight.
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The only thing this boondoogle has accomplished is that it has somewhat masked the arrival of it's successor technology. Drones and UAVs will out perform, out last and have beat the F35 to operational status. One reason we are still pushing manned fighters is that pilots run the air corps, pilots like to fly and pilots like to be heroes. Imaging yourself sitting in a bar in Omaha talking to a pimple faced computer geek kid in a uniform telling you about the hairiest missions he "flew" from his console.
Not too mention that it's probably harder to get a manned aircraft to target their own countrymen up close and personal compared to a geek at a console.
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Old 05-02-14, 03:33 PM   #26
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The day a country that is known for selling us millions of plastic three wheel scooters for our children can build a better stealth fighter jet, even if they did copy our plans using the internet, can go laugh at themselves when we shoot them down due to it's built in flaws.

This is not about cost overruns with fast food workers wanting $10 an hour ... this is about change in our basic way of American life.

by 2018 everything is going to cost from food to fuel to ship and airplane building.
Sense making none.
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Old 05-02-14, 04:16 PM   #27
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Crap! I think we messed up. The plans the Chinese stole were the real plans and the ones we used were the fake plans the Chinese were supposed to steal.

Awkward.
That just leaves the question whose plans the Iranians stole to build their "Stealth aircraft"? Has some theme park recently planned to build a stealth aircraft mock up for decoration?
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Wasted money! All you need to make an aircraft undetectable is to switch the transponder off. Ask the Malaysians.
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Sense making none.
Sorry it didn't make sense to you ... I was just upset with everyone bashing the F-35 and made a snide remark ... I forgot the smiley
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