I thought boot camp was supposed to be difficult - Page 2

Sailor Steve · 03-12-12, 11:41 PM

You bet? I don't think theres a wager here, considering Jack Lalanne's accomplishments. I think Chuck Norris is a Jack Lalanne wannabe. The only other person who came close to being that tough at that age was Jack Palance.

Stealhead · 03-12-12, 11:44 PM

When Chuck Norris was born it was only because Jack Lalanne gave him permission to live.

Sailor Steve · 03-12-12, 11:52 PM

Onkel Neal · 03-13-12, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I'm sure passing boot camp at 51 can be done as well.

Apparently so.

Still makes me wonder if boot camp is so tough after all. Maybe this woman is a 1% female wonder speciman, but I doubt it.

MothBalls · 03-13-12, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I thought boot camp was supposed to be difficult

Then you do it.

As many have pointed out, the requirements get lower as you get older, add to that, they have different standards for females. Still, it isn't easy and many don't make it.

My personal opinion, there should be one set standard for all, period. It shouldn't be the number of pushups, situps, and how fast you can run. It should be based on combat conditions and your ability to perform basic combat maneuvers.

Onkel Neal · 03-13-12, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MothBalls

Then you do it.

Why would I want to do that?

Platapus · 03-13-12, 05:42 AM

I know plenty of 50 year olds that could kick my butt.

Just because one 50 year old got through basic does not mean that all 50 year olds can. Trying to take one isolated and exceptional case and using that to form an opinion that basic is easy these days is a bit illogical.

I could easily make an equally illogical claim that because I know one 19 year old that could not pass PT that the military's PT is unreasonably tough. That does not make sense either does it?

Oberon · 03-13-12, 08:18 AM

Don't count the old guns out, good on her I say, she's done something I doubt I could do, so big respect to her.

August · 03-13-12, 08:42 AM

Just remember. Age and experience often trumps youth and skill.

Oberon · 03-13-12, 09:14 AM

Amen August. I used to work with a lady in her sixties, and she could run rings around me. She could be a bit abrasive, and we had some humdinger of rows when I first started but when we got used to our different working styles we made a damn good team if I may say so. She retired about three years ago, I still miss working with her, just isn't the same.

August · 03-13-12, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Amen August. I used to work with a lady in her sixties, and she could run rings around me. She could be a bit abrasive, and we had some humdinger of rows when I first started but when we got used to our different working styles we made a damn good team if I may say so. She retired about three years ago, I still miss working with her, just isn't the same.

I hope someone says that about me some day.

Bilge_Rat · 03-13-12, 09:50 AM

Why should anyone be surprised? The Army revised its training standards a few years back because it was too "tough" for today's out of shape recruit:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174337

August · 03-13-12, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Why should anyone be surprised? The Army revised its training standards a few years back because it was too "tough" for today's out of shape recruit:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174337

As I explained last time that's not really why they did it. They revamped PT to make it more applicable to the types of physical activities commonly found in combat. Nobody needs to be able to run two miles in sneakers and gym clothes, nor will their sit-up capabilities likely be tested.

On the other hand short quick dashes, such as crossing a road or open area are very applicable. Being able to clear a hole in the floor of a bombed out building is very applicable. Being able to lift your body off the ground with a combat load is very applicable. Being able to pull yourself over a wall is very applicable

So you can call it lowering standards if you want but in truth i'll bet the new PT test is a lot more physically challenging than the old one.

eddie · 03-13-12, 12:51 PM

Went through boot camp in San Diego back in '68, would not want to do it again anytime soon. Makes me tired just thinking about it.

Jimbuna · 03-13-12, 01:18 PM

She must hail from British stock

03-12-12, 11:41 PM	#16
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	You bet? I don't think theres a wager here, considering Jack Lalanne's accomplishments. I think Chuck Norris is a Jack Lalanne wannabe. The only other person who came close to being that tough at that age was Jack Palance. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	__________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-13-12, 05:42 AM	#22
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,431 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I know plenty of 50 year olds that could kick my butt. Just because one 50 year old got through basic does not mean that all 50 year olds can. Trying to take one isolated and exceptional case and using that to form an opinion that basic is easy these days is a bit illogical. I could easily make an equally illogical claim that because I know one 19 year old that could not pass PT that the military's PT is unreasonably tough. That does not make sense either does it? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,249 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just remember. Age and experience often trumps youth and skill. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	Why should anyone be surprised? The Army revised its training standards a few years back because it was too "tough" for today's out of shape recruit: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174337 __________________

03-12-12, 11:44 PM	#17
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	When Chuck Norris was born it was only because Jack Lalanne gave him permission to live.

03-13-12, 08:18 AM	#23
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Don't count the old guns out, good on her I say, she's done something I doubt I could do, so big respect to her.

03-13-12, 09:14 AM	#25
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Amen August. I used to work with a lady in her sixties, and she could run rings around me. She could be a bit abrasive, and we had some humdinger of rows when I first started but when we got used to our different working styles we made a damn good team if I may say so. She retired about three years ago, I still miss working with her, just isn't the same.

03-13-12, 12:51 PM	#29
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Went through boot camp in San Diego back in '68, would not want to do it again anytime soon. Makes me tired just thinking about it. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,357 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	She must hail from British stock __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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