Criticism of Islam Is New Front in PC War, Media Expert Says

[JU_88]

@ yet another Islam thread
GT is like the f**king twilight zone.

[tater]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

No they don't, only as much as it does with ordinary crimes where it relates to intent.
Like did you intend to kill your victim or did you not think what you were doing.

Intent is already there in the law. Murder requires intent, for example. Being punished more because of your thoughts is totalitarianism---with a smiley face on it for "good intentions."

Murder or assault are bad enough as it is, I'd hate to see some victims have their peeps get better treatment for beating them to a pulp without a hateful heart.

If you did not intend to kill them, it is unfortunately a lower crime. Manslaughter, 2d degree murder, etc. In the US hate crime laws bump penalties. BTW, without "hate crime" the hate is still evidence of intent, so it could be the difference alone—without any special thought crime laws.

[Dan D]

Originally Posted by Skybird

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People are not only in danger to be sued over charges of "hate crime" when not thinking the officially wanted/allowed and streamlined way of thought on issues like Islam, migration, religion, homosexuality - they already get and got convicted on the basis of the new legal standard in the EU. Check google, and the news. That is a fact....

No. That is opinion presented as fact.

No. That is opinion presented as fact.

Its just bull presented by Sky.

People having done anything but a "hate crime", already get sentenced for having committed claimed "hate crimes", so obviously something is foul here.

bull

But now, the burden of evidence has been totally reversed by 180°, now the accused is assumed guilty becasue it is claimed by hear-say that he is, and he is assumed to be guilty and will get sentenced as long as he cannot prove his innocence.

more bull

And actually, every couple of days I fetch a new piece of news in german media that again somebody is being tried to get silenced and gagged by suing him over the hate crime/defamation/offence/discrimination that he said somethign critical about Islamic migration.

bull, every couple of days you post some more bull and make another bull claim about what it is.

Just so I am clear, I am actually torn on this issue of "hate crime" laws, since it is subjective and gray.

True, which is why the legislation needs to be examined. The only problem with that is that sky has this fictional set of laws that no one can actually see

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

True, which is why the legislation needs to be examined. The only problem with that is that sky has this fictional set of laws that no one can actually see

That is a different issue. There are many different discussions going on in this tread, which is SOP in the GT forum.