Any information about physics (ship dynamics, depthcharging,...) available?

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by TarJak

One other question, do you have to get you crew to flood tanks and handle trim at all?

Hmm, interesting. Would the Captain tell the crew how to trim the boat, or would he just say what depth he wanted? I agree with Turbografx, I wouldn't expect trimming to be in the game, unless it was the Captain's job. We'll probably get emergency surface and crash dive, but that's probably all you'll get.

[TarJak]

Would the Capt. stand in the torpedo room watching his men work whilst there was an attack on? Would the captain sit and listen to the hydrophone? Would he plot the course or just ask for it to be done?

Why are these in the game if they are not the skippers job?

From what I've seen and read the skipper needed to know and understand all of the systems that came together to operate the boat and the main one he needed to understand was the diving controls.

What has bugged me from SH1 is the complete lack of ANY simulation of the action required to get a boat under trim. It had a bearing on the ability to run silent for long periods, it had a bearing on the speed at which the boat could dive it had a bearing on the way the boat handled rough weather on or near the surface and yet it is completely absent from any subsim currently on or near the market.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Webster

remember when some of you were saying we should stop asking about core game to be bug free and boring things like having correct motion dynamics because it was more important to the popular opinions to be able to walk around the boat and see torpedos loaded and guys with wrenchs fixing things?

like tater said, this is the price of that because to get something you often must also give up something

Been sayin that for years, but i keep getting shouted down by the "HURR HURR IMMERSION!" crowd.

[Sailor Steve]

That's the problem I have. I'm not and never have been a gamer. I play a lot of so-called 'games', but every one of them is genre-related. I play tabletop wargames with friends because we're interested in the same subjects and we talk about the reality while we're playing and afterwards at dinner.

I never got into the 'U-boats vs Fleet boats' arguments except to comment that I like submarines and they all fascinate me. That said, while I didn't ask to have crew standing around in SH3 I have grown to like them, and I've grown to like the additional crew at battle stations in SH4, and I kind of like the way things are looking in SH5. But I would gladly go back to having none of that if someone would just make everything work the way it's supposed to.

That hasn't happened yet, and it's looking like it may not be happening here either. I like what I consider to be immersion, but that comes mostly with sound rather than sight. I love the graphics, but they aren't the core of the sim.