Vet. claims Avatar portrays marines as psycho... - Page 2

nikimcbee · 01-12-10, 07:18 PM

Expensive graphics aside

, Avatar is nothing more than Liberal, whiteman's guilt on display. It's only a movie, if you don't like it, don't see it. When I saw it, this was the first thing I thought of:
(Avatar, the non-3D version

)

I still stand by my review of it: It's Dances with wolves story with Shaka zulu characters, set in Jurrasic park.

I didn't think it was that bad, I just rolled my eyes when they got to the preachy part.

Platapus · 01-12-10, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I still stand by my review of it: It's Dances with wolves story with Shaka zulu characters, set in Jurrasic park.

Is it "Dances with wolves" or "A man called Horse" I have heard both. Which did you think was closer?

CaptainHaplo · 01-12-10, 07:49 PM

Its more like "A man called Horse who Dances with Wolves - badly".

nikimcbee · 01-13-10, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Is it "Dances with wolves" or "A man called Horse" I have heard both. Which did you think was closer?

It's been a looooooooooong since I've seen the "Horse" one. The motives are different between Avatar and DwW. In Avatar, the motive is bad, in DwW, Costner dosen't have much of a choice, as there is no one else on the praire to talk to. Plus the Army in DwW was out there to protect settlers from the American Indians.

Weiss Pinguin · 01-13-10, 10:56 AM

I guess it was kind of like A Man Called Horse, except instead of being captured, his whole goal was to get in with the natives, and that kinda changes his motives. It was like a lot of movies lol

Catfish · 01-13-10, 01:07 PM

Hello,
it is certainly a break to the usually glorified Hollywood phantasies they call "war".
Guess Mr. Balcer would have liked the 1943 propaganda film with H. Bogart "Action in the North Atlantic" better, the bad guys are where they belong like germans gunning down shipwrecked sailors and their commander wearing a white silk scarf - or maybe "U-571" ? I heard submarine veterans gave standing ovations after the premiere of this lousy piece of concocted history.
Or maybe he is just still uninformed about with what greater intentions he was sent to 'nam, or wherever ? Helping the people, really !

Yes i'm biased, i think Avatar was a damn good film, better than a lot i saw in the last 10 years. And yes, "Avatar " is anti-military from its message (if not from the pictures, and action scenes lol) so according to Balcer it certainly must be anti-american

Greetings,
Catfish

jimbob · 01-13-10, 05:23 PM

So, a marine has sand in vagina because of Pocahontas-2099 teh movie ?

Like, there's no real problems about.

Blacklight · 01-13-10, 06:13 PM

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So, a marine has sand in vagina because of Pocahontas-2099 teh movie ?

More like "Dances With Wolves" 2009 on an alien planet.

01-13-10, 06:33 PM

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"This is the only time I ever sat in a theater where people were cheering the forest and the blue people, attacking ex-Marines," Roeser said.

I wonder how many films with blue people in Tom Roeser has watched?

Neptunus Rex · 01-14-10, 07:20 PM

Must not have paid much attention to the movie. Though they MAY have BEEN Marines, they're former military working for a corporation.

They're called mercenaries I believe.

kiwi_2005 · 01-14-10, 07:25 PM

I thought the marines were cool. That gun ho sgt made the movie - sipping coffee in his helicopter while giving orders. Thats one calm marine!

TarJak · 01-14-10, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

I thought the marines were cool. That gun ho sgt made the movie - sipping coffee in his helicopter while giving orders. Thats one calm marine!

I thought he was trying to look too much like Col. Kilgore from Apocalypse Now.

Terragon · 01-14-10, 10:00 PM

I never liked Hollywood's portrayal of military men, for the most part.

Only a few exceptions, like "Platoon", "Das Boot", or even "Full Metal Jacket" I thought were pretty good. Even "Saving Private Ryan" was - human. A soldier is just a guy trying to do an ugly job. No matter how you spin it, you mention the glory, medals, victory, all that other stuff... It's just not true. I was in the AF for a little bit, and that's not what it was about.

Sure, I wanted to do my duty to my country, but it ended up being close to a group of guys and watching out for one another. Above all, do your job as best as you can.

Platapus · 01-15-10, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Terragon

I never liked Hollywood's portrayal of military men, for the most part.

Enemy Below.

01-12-10, 07:18 PM	#1
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Expensive graphics aside, Avatar is nothing more than Liberal, whiteman's guilt on display. It's only a movie, if you don't like it, don't see it. When I saw it, this was the first thing I thought of: (Avatar, the non-3D version) I still stand by my review of it: It's Dances with wolves story with Shaka zulu characters, set in Jurrasic park. I didn't think it was that bad, I just rolled my eyes when they got to the preachy part. __________________

01-12-10, 07:49 PM	#3
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Its more like "A man called Horse who Dances with Wolves - badly". __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

01-13-10, 10:56 AM	#5
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	I guess it was kind of like A Man Called Horse, except instead of being captured, his whole goal was to get in with the natives, and that kinda changes his motives. It was like a lot of movies lol __________________

01-14-10, 07:20 PM	#10
Neptunus Rex Frogman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 294 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Must not have paid much attention to the movie. Though they MAY have BEEN Marines, they're former military working for a corporation. They're called mercenaries I believe. __________________ Neptunus Rex sends "In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president." A.C. 11-5-08

01-14-10, 07:25 PM	#11
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	I thought the marines were cool. That gun ho sgt made the movie - sipping coffee in his helicopter while giving orders. Thats one calm marine! __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

01-13-10, 01:07 PM	#6
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,819 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello, it is certainly a break to the usually glorified Hollywood phantasies they call "war". Guess Mr. Balcer would have liked the 1943 propaganda film with H. Bogart "Action in the North Atlantic" better, the bad guys are where they belong like germans gunning down shipwrecked sailors and their commander wearing a white silk scarf - or maybe "U-571" ? I heard submarine veterans gave standing ovations after the premiere of this lousy piece of concocted history. Or maybe he is just still uninformed about with what greater intentions he was sent to 'nam, or wherever ? Helping the people, really ! Yes i'm biased, i think Avatar was a damn good film, better than a lot i saw in the last 10 years. And yes, "Avatar " is anti-military from its message (if not from the pictures, and action scenes lol) so according to Balcer it certainly must be anti-american Greetings, Catfish

01-13-10, 05:23 PM	#7
jimbob Ensign Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suomi Finland Posts: 225 Downloads: 365 Uploads: 6	So, a marine has sand in vagina because of Pocahontas-2099 teh movie ? Like, there's no real problems about.

01-14-10, 10:00 PM	#13
Terragon Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: A few meters away from the Challenger Deep Posts: 49 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	I never liked Hollywood's portrayal of military men, for the most part. Only a few exceptions, like "Platoon", "Das Boot", or even "Full Metal Jacket" I thought were pretty good. Even "Saving Private Ryan" was - human. A soldier is just a guy trying to do an ugly job. No matter how you spin it, you mention the glory, medals, victory, all that other stuff... It's just not true. I was in the AF for a little bit, and that's not what it was about. Sure, I wanted to do my duty to my country, but it ended up being close to a group of guys and watching out for one another. Above all, do your job as best as you can. __________________ Men may battle over the Atlantic, but the sea belongs to no one... Except the dead.

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