Turkey heading for religious cyber-censorship

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

With the criticism of the one true faith found here, They probably blocked Subsim a while back.


Gotta love censorship I wonder when they are going to start implanting locator chips into their citizens so they know their every move, preferably with thought monitors so that they can find all the unbelievers.

SubSim. Oh my, now you made me look like an idiot.

I thought he was about the SS (Nazi context) when replying to him.

[Letum]

/aiming for the list!

[NeonSamurai]

Ooo my turn my turn <pulls out his list of Shakespearean insults>

Thou crusty batch of nature!
Thou elvish-mark'd abortive rooting hog!
Scratching could not make it worse.. such a face as yours.
I was searching for a fool when i found you.
Out you green-sickness carrion!

[Letum]

Don't tell him your name NeonSamurai!

[NeonSamurai]

Shhhhhhh!

[Oberon]

[ETR3(SS)]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Can SS be viewed in Turkey?

I'm gonna say yes for the moment.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=60

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Ooo my turn my turn <pulls out his list of Shakespearean insults>

Thou crusty batch of nature!
Thou elvish-mark'd abortive rooting hog!
Scratching could not make it worse.. such a face as yours.
I was searching for a fool when i found you.
Out you green-sickness carrion!

Shakespeare!? I feel honoured!

Letum, you must become much, much meaner if you want to get on the list. I honestly doubt that you have what it takes.

I have Tribesman on "ignore" since Thursday night, after half a year I simply was tired of it.

Oh no, that means I can no longer point out when you are simply making things up
Hold on, thats not right is it? Surely it doesn't work like that?
Ah I get it now.
It just means that you will go on posting in the topic in the same vein without realising it is noted that you are writing stuff that is simply not true.

[August]

Originally Posted by Letum

I do hope I have made it to SB's ignore list.
If not; must try harder.

All the really cool kids are on it.

[CaptainHaplo]

Well durn August, that means I gotta break out my old broken glasses, retape em and find that darn old pocket protector too. Some too short pants (never know when there might be a flood). Just cuz I can't be cool enough to be on the list.

Though honestly, I get on pretty good with Sky, though we do disagree at times.

[August]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Well durn August, that means I gotta break out my old broken glasses, retape em and find that darn old pocket protector too. Some too short pants (never know when there might be a flood). Just cuz I can't be cool enough to be on the list.

Give me your lunch money 4 eyes!

Though honestly, I get on pretty good with Sky, though we do disagree at times.

You'd make a great diplomat Hap. Me, well, I guess I just can't keep from calling a spade a spade.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Oh no, that means I can no longer point out when you are simply making things up...

It just means that you will go on posting in the topic in the same vein without realising it is noted that you are writing stuff that is simply not true.

I would be way more willing to believe in what you say if you were finally telling people where you get your info from. If everything Skybird says is made up or untrue then show us the counter evidence! So far you have only be claiming while Skybird put up links to where he got his info from (one might agree or disagree with his sources but at least he tells us where it is from). If you want me to believe you more than Skybird maybe you should start to point to your sources. I'm writing an application right now and I have to state my sources all the time. If I don't, my Professor will not accept that passage and regard it as if it wasn't there.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

I would be way more willing to believe in what you say if you were finally telling people where you get your info from.

Good luck while waiting. Some of us are waiting for that since last summer when he was very pressingly asked by me and one or two others more to reveal his qualifications. He said he must not, and eggdanced around mysterious implications that it would be wise if we just assume that qualification does exist. I only say to that that much of the stuff he claimed and said is rightout wrong, and reveals a stellar lack of background knowledge, else he would not fall for just superficial points so often that he does not and cannot put into context, nevertheless blowing them up in size and meaning. I see him as a troll, and I just recommend to stop paying attention to him.

If you want me to believe you more than Skybird maybe you should start to point to your sources.

Hell, you should not just believe me or anyone else. Form an educated opinion yourself by reading some basic works on your own. You must not read as excessively as I did, but you are German, I can recommend you two or three German books by Raddatz that I have recommended before, since he is both very thorough and insightful, and also very precise in giving his links and sources in Islamic scripture and it's context. that is a good and solid base to found your own opinion on. I certainly do not wish that you just believe me something because I say so.

http://www.amazon.de/Von-Gott-Allah-...114712&sr=8-11

http://www.amazon.de/Allah-Terror-Dj...d_bxgy_b_img_c

This is some of the best summarising literature on Islam that I know of both in German and English language, and it compares direcly to the Christian church as well. Not too easy to read, I admit, but of very high standard, and extremely well-founded.

Raddatz, amongst other, is an academically trained "Orientalist" and was close personal student of some of the best qualified Franco-German authorities for the academical research on Islam. IMO he has surpassed them.

If you want to read the Quran, be advised that that only makes sense with plenty of secondary literature accompanying that, else too much important details and background will escape your attention necessarily. It's a bit - complicated, and more difficult than to read the New Testament, for example. It already starts with controversial translation issues. I recommend to start with summarising literature on the general case of Islam that is qualified to stand the test of academic standards. there is much amateur work out there that illustrates the author is thinking that it already is good enough to just have good intentions regarding the integration of islam, and that wish would make a good book, but these works most often are incredibly wishful, and shallow. Many others have a very PC bias.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Hell, you should not just believe me or anyone else. Form an educated opinion yourself by reading some basic works on your own.

And that is why I ask for sources.