Interior flooding added i think .

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

First part: I hope not... I need a job.
Second part: I agree that it's a rant. And I've seen lots of it lately. Most of them feature the words "Das Boot" and I can't understand why.

The fear is form over function, or form at the cost of function. Or in other words, Instead of spending limited manhours trying to improve aspects of a simulation, they're spending limited manhours trying to create Das Boot the video game. Either way, i don't care, not interested.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Either way, i don't care, not interested.

If not interested get out and stop bothering us....


EDIT:

@WEBSTER and Takeda Shingen: What do you think about this???

It's not the first time he does that.

DO I GO ON OTHER GAME'S FORUMS HERE AND BULLSH**** THEIR GAMES?

To me, it's worst than being off-topic.

[Sailor Steve]

Ducimus was merely agreeing with the gripes already posted by JScones and Karamazovnew. Why aren't you complaining about their posts as well. I don't necessarily agree with them, but they certainly have the right to their opinions. I don't know what's really being done, and I contend that no one will know until the game is released, or at least until they show us something.

Wishing for 3D flooding is great. Arguing about whether it's going to be there or not is fruitless, unless what you really want is the chance to say "See? I was right!" It will be interesting to see how everything is done, but we won't know anything for sure until we do see it.

[PL_Andrev]

I am pleased that the developers are trying something new. Especially since the new solution will not affect the current solutions already.
An example of the good new ideas was "slow motion" in FEAR game... Does anyone want to play in "slow" the 3D shooter? After releasing it turned out to be a great innovation.

Should therefore await the opinions of the game until the new system.

Originally Posted by JScones

Nice feature but less important than others? What does that say considering what we know the devs have added? Interesting that they consider an effective enemy less important that this 3D fluff they're giving us.

/rant

Consider what is more interesting in the SH5 game:
Hide enemy submarines near our ports which can attack and destroy our uboat or our suplly transport plus allied uboats from which we can get supplies...
or
Surface ships which can firing torpedoes to other ships.
Feasible, why not... but the battles of surface ships are quite rare in the SH3 / SH4.

I totally agree with the opinion of the developers here.

[THE_MASK]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

The fear is form over function, or form at the cost of function. Or in other words, Instead of spending limited manhours trying to improve aspects of a simulation, they're spending limited manhours trying to create Das Boot the video game. Either way, i don't care, not interested.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...erior+flooding
Isnt what the 3d interior flooding is all about .

[JU_88]

I will save any potential 'rants' until I have actually played the game.

We can sit here scrutinizing every screenshot and every little snipet of information until we are blue in the face...
It still desn't tell us how well the game will actually play.
But the more we expect, the more likely we will be dissapointed.

As this stage, our judgments are merely assumptions and speculation.

[JScones]

Originally Posted by Antar

Consider what is more interesting in the SH5 game:
Hide enemy submarines near our ports which can attack and destroy our uboat or our suplly transport plus allied uboats from which we can get supplies...
or
Surface ships which can firing torpedoes to other ships.
Feasible, why not... but the battles of surface ships are quite rare in the SH3 / SH4.

Consider what is more interesting in the SH5 game:
Giving TORPEDO BOATS the ability to actually fire TORPEDOES at you, the U-boat Commander (which they WOULD do if they saw you scooting along the surface)
or
You asking Fritz how the soup is...again.

That's the point I was making.

As an aside, it is interesting that the usual respondents are out in force...you know, the ones who complain when someone disagrees with their opinion, yet feel quite righteous to do likewise themselves. Interesting, eh?

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by JScones

Giving TORPEDO BOATS the ability to actually fire TORPEDOES at you, the U-boat Commander (which they WOULD do if they saw you scooting along the surface)
or
You asking Fritz how the soup is...again.

Well they have said Ai subs will have torpedos, So I'd be rather amazed if PT boats still suffered from torpedo tube constipation in SHV.
To be fair only 'suface ships' are mentioned, but while torpedos lauching capabilities are essential for PT boats they are not quite as important for Destroyers.

[JScones]

Yeah. Planes had them in SH4, right? That's gotta bring it all one step closer.

Originally Posted by JU_88

To be fair only 'suface ships' are mentioned, but while torpedos lauching capabilities are essential for PT boats they are not quite as important for Destroyers.

The example given in the question though is specifically the torpedo boat...a subset of surface ship.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by JScones

Yeah. Planes had them in SH4, right? That's gotta bring it all one step closer.


The example given in the question though is specifically the torpedo boat...a subset of surface ship.

Yeah I just meant that in: in the Devs statment they didnt say yes or no...only that its not as important for AI surface vessels as it is for AI Submarines.
(a bit vague) I would like to think they can can understand the importance of Torpedo boat being able to use Torpeedos as ordinace.
(otherwise its like bomber that cant drop bombs)
In SH3 & 4 it didnt happen as there was no AI torpeedo controller for any vessels, since we will likely have this in SHV, it should not be too difficult to stick one on an ELCO or whatever.

[Tomi_099]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

First part: I hope not... I need a job.
Second part: I agree that it's a rant. And I've seen lots of it lately. Most of them feature the words "Das Boot" and I can't understand why. I've played SH long before seeing that movie and thanked the ancient greek gods that the games doesn't feature the 90% boring life of the uboat crews. Even tho some of us want molded food and tensions amid the crew, or people freaking up during an attack, the devs just read them, laughed and then moved on. It has already been stated many times, and by people that saw the demo, that the games has taken a new direction. A wise and brave choice considering how much the SH mods have achieved lately. I'm still asking myself: when will The Sims allow first person view? When will CoD feature a dynamic campaign? When will a NFS game force me to stop at traffic lights? When will a flight sim allow me to get out of the plane and walk around it to check if has it's pitot tube cleared, park it in the hangar and then driving in car home? That's what a NEW direction means and we should applaud the devs for trying to make the very first sim in which you HAVE a crew and you HAVE a true thing under your simulated ass to sim about using. Sure the game will not be perfect, as they've left out things which even I consider to be game-breaking issues. But they didn't promise us Reality or even SH5+GWX5 in one box. SH3 and SH4 did not have any real alternative. SH5's alternative will be SH3 with all it's current mods. And I bet that it will beat it hands down even in vanilla.

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First part: I hope not... I Need a Job.

Oh ja !! natürlich, irgendjemand muss ja die Fehler korrigieren.
Das Thema kann man so ausdehnen das die Arbeit niemals zu Ende geht,
das wichtigste dabei ist das man die Fantasie nicht verliert.

Also ich denke wenn das Spiel vor Weinachten erscheint wird es ein schlechtes Spiel,
Ich denke Februar Märtz sind der richtige Zeitpunkt.

Das Interessante davon ist wenn man bedenkt und der beste Beispiel ist
Battelfield 2 ist vor zwei jahren hatte man angenommen das das Spiel
vollkommen ist , dann erleben wir das scenario von Coll of Duty
( Modern worfare ) und dann (Moder Worfare 2 ) und ich muss sagen ein Spiel
Übertrift das andere ..in allen Punkten.
Warum weil die Entwickler Phantasie haben.
Einiges habe ich festgestellt UBI-soft schläft nicht, im Gegenteil
Ubisoft ist hell wach !!
Und für dich mein freund wird es nicht an Arbeit fehlen.
Ich finde es Fantastisch und zugleich klug, denn alle oder viele Ideen sind
Aus euren Köpfen entstanden .
Wie Wassereinbruch im U-Boot mit ansteigenden Wasser, oder Regenbogen an
Horizont nach einen großen Regen , wie die Dynamik der Menschen im U-Boot.
Wie die Dynamische Campagne , wie Die Animierten Dieselmotoren die einen das Gefühl
Geben das man eine Wunderwaffe der 1940Jahre Steuert.
Das alles sind 3D-Modelle die ins Leben gerufen werden.
Mann kann das Gut oder schlecht gestallten oder Steuern.
Und genau das ist das was uns Battelfield oder Coll of Duty oder Flashpoint
Immer wieder auf das neueste zeigen und uns immer wieder zu staunen bringen.

Was ich bei den Russen noch bewundere ist ( Sturmovik (IL2 ) / Battel of Briten )
Das Sie den Publikum noch näher stehen und ihnen den Honig auf das Brot
schmiern und etwicklungs-Bilder zeigen und damit ihren Fans zeigen was auf Sie zukommt.
Das wünschte ich mir auch von Silent Hunter 5


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Oh yes! Of course, someone has indeed correct the errors.
The theme can be extended so that the work never comes to an end
The most important is that one's imagination does not lose.

So I think if the game will appear before Christmas it is a bad game
I think february is the right time.

The most interesting of these is when you think is the best example
Battelfield 2 is for two years had been assumed that the game
is perfect, then we experience the scenario of Coll of Duty
(Modern Worfare) and then (Moder Worfare 2) and I have to say a game
better the other .. in all respects.


Why because the developers imagination.

Something I have noticed UBI-soft is not sleeping, on the contrary,
Ubisoft is wide awake!

And for you my friend will be no lack of work.
I think it is Fantastic and also wise, because all or many of the ideas are
Born out your heads.

As water entering the submarine with rising water, or rainbow of
Horizon for a big rain, as the dynamics of people in the submarine.
As the dynamic campaign,
as The Animated diesel engines have a feeling
Give it a miracle that the 1940Jahre Controls.


These are all 3D models are launched.
Man can the good or bad build or taxes.


And that is exactly what we Battelfield or Coll of Duty or Flash Point
Again and again point to bring the newest and amazed us again and again.

What I admire is still among the Russians (Sturmovik (IL2) / Battel of Britain)
It is possible the audience even closer to them and the honey on the bread
Show and images, and thus show their fans what comes to you.
I also wished that from Silent Hunter 5.




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[Méo]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Ducimus was merely agreeing with the gripes already posted by JScones and Karamazovnew. Why aren't you complaining about their posts as well. I don't necessarily agree with them, but they certainly have the right to their opinions.

The problem is not his opinion or that he has no interest in SH5 the problem is that he got interest in bothering us.

In another post he said that he was not buying SH5 because it was only ATO.

Just an example: I've got no interest in NFL and i got no interest in bothering them in their thread in GT..

Do we wanna come here and see all the whining from everyone who's not satisfied that SH5 is only ATO?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Méo

If not interested get out and stop bothering us....

I have just as much of a right to post on a forum as you do.

Originally Posted by sober

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...erior+flooding
Isnt what the 3d interior flooding is all about .

I was thinking more in terms of a functional flooding. If i mentioned the zones.cfg, i most certainly was. Think in terms of merchant ship damage mods where a ship is sunk by flooding as opposed to hit point loss. This is far different then a 3d rendition of an interior flooding. The former is function, the later is form.

Originally Posted by Méo

The problem is not his opinion or that he has no interest in SH5 the problem is that he got interest in bothering us.

In another post he said that he was not buying SH5 because it was only ATO.

I have only a passing interest in SH5's development in the offchance that SH5 develops an addon pack for fleetboats much like SH4 did for Uboats. (though i very much doubt that) Since most of the Uboat fanboys like yourself didn't show ANY interest in SH4 until it had your favorite toy in it via UBM, i don't see what your problem is now that the situation is reversed.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Méo
The problem is not his opinion or that he has no interest in SH5 the problem is that he got interest in bothering us.

In another post he said that he was not buying SH5 because it was only ATO.

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I have only a passing interest in SH5's development in the offchance that SH5 develops an addon pack for fleetboats much like SH4 did for Uboats. (though i very much doubt that) Since most of the Uboat fanboys like yourself didn't show ANY interest in SH4 until it had your favorite toy in it via UBM, i don't see what your problem is now that the situation is reversed.

Oh bloody hell guys, not the PTO / ATO melodrama again... please....
before we all slit our wrists.....

Meo, everyone can have there opinion, even if their opinion is that they dont care. No need to let it get to you.

Ducimus, This entire forums is made up of 'fanboys' of some kind, you and me included. Uboat, Fleet Boat, or whatever. there all just a bloody submarines to most people.

My 2 cents. take it or leave it.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Oh bloody hell guys, not the PTO / ATO melodrama again... please....
before we all slit our wrists.....

Hey he started it. All i was doing was citing what the greivance was, and that i had no stake in it either way.

Ducimus, This entire forums is made up of 'fanboys' of some kind, you and me included. Uboat, Fleet Boat, or whatever. there all just a bloody submarines to most people.

True, but it was never the fanboy's choice or preference that i took issue with. My beef has been at it's core, against willful ignorance. I think you'll agree that is one thing nobody can accuse me of. Yes i have my preference, but im equally versed in both theaters. Not everyone can (unfortunately) say that.