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View Poll Results: Who's facing economic meltdown as a result of recession?
Fine and dandy, thankyou. 17 42.50%
Treading water. 5 12.50%
Outlook improving. 8 20.00%
Outlook worsening. 10 25.00%
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Old 12-04-08, 08:22 AM   #16
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Technical schools like the one i teach at normally do well when the economy tanks because there are a lot of displaced workers needing to be retrained and many others just looking for an edge over the competition in a diminishing job market.

ATM I have a full class so I have guaranteed employment for another 6 months at least.
What do you teach out of curiosity?
I teach a telecommunications technician course.
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Old 12-04-08, 09:22 AM   #17
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Laid off. Sadly, I had to go to Oklahoma for work.

Good news, though, my bro got laid off as well and went to North Dakota, so that state is populated again
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Old 12-04-08, 09:36 AM   #18
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Being a OTR truck driver, and working for a local company with it's own product and its own truck fleet, is keeping me busy. We just had a drivers meeting the other day and our boss informed us that while some of our sales have gone soft, we're signing contracts with new clients for our products and our production is the best it's been in years.

Things aren't looking too shabby and for whatever howls this comment may draw, I thank God everyday...
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Old 12-04-08, 06:24 PM   #19
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state is populated again
Iowa has people? Thought it was only populated with corn ears.
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Old 12-04-08, 06:41 PM   #20
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Im stuck in a nasty spot - keep my job and have progressively worse arguments with my fiancee about how much time it takes, how little my salary is, and how much of a mental and health cost is involved on me; or quit and not buy a house / go on a honeymoon / have a wedding.

unfortunately there is nothing new out there for me either.. it is literally looking better financially for me to take welfare payments than work. but then, no bank will give a loan to a welfare-dependant person (at least not here anyways)
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Old 12-04-08, 06:55 PM   #21
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Im stuck in a nasty spot - keep my job and have progressively worse arguments with my fiancee about how much time it takes, how little my salary is, and how much of a mental and health cost is involved on me; or quit and not buy a house / go on a honeymoon / have a wedding.

unfortunately there is nothing new out there for me either.. it is literally looking better financially for me to take welfare payments than work. but then, no bank will give a loan to a welfare-dependant person (at least not here anyways)
Your post is the one I want to respond to but, I want to say the right thing.

So I'm going to ponder for awhile before posting.

Till then Good Luck Matey.
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Old 12-04-08, 08:56 PM   #22
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Even though I'm doing fine at the moment, I know plenty of people who aren't. We have a former Air Force tanker pilot temping in our File Room. It's not right that someone so qualified (lots of missions over/near Iraq & Afghanistan) can't get a civilian pilot job. And now he sorts our mail, it's ludicrous -- but better, I suppose, than being dependent on his wife.
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Old 01-24-09, 11:13 AM   #23
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Apologies for reviving an older thread, but I have an update on employment:

As of monday next week I will be working as a warehouse operative for Pepsico - Walkers Crisps to the folk in the UK - packing boxes of crisps on to pallets for loading on to lorries.

The half dozen or so people who were taken on at the same time as me are also in the same position: there are no jobs in what they really do, or are qualified in, to earn a living.

It feels like I've just turned the clock back 9 years (the last time I did this kind of work). Pay is £6.00 per hour for 44 hours a week on a rotating shift.
Some numbers for you:

£6.00ph x 44 = £264.00 - tax (around 21% ?) = £208.56 weekly income
£208.56 x 4 weeks = £834.24 x 12 = annual income of £10,010.88 or thereabouts.

Woooh that's almost a 7k pay cut
I had trouble keeping a lid on things before that... and I'm not a spendthrift.

Hours to be worked:
WEEK 1 ---- monday - thursday 0600-1400. friday 0600-1800 (saturday off) sunday 0600-1800.
WEEK 2 --- monday - thursday 1400-2200. friday saturday sunday off.
repeat schedule all over again.


To say I'm not at all happy about this is an understatement. But right now I have no choice in the matter. None.

She is back at work, but most likely she'll only have work until the end of march 09 - after which there's no more contracted work for her.

Who is responsible for this financial mess everyone is in?
It's not my fault; I've done all I can to earn a decent living but despite all that I have not been able to earn any money in what I'm qualified in since the end of Nov 08. Social services and the jobcentre have been no help, having decided that I was not entitled to anything after being made redundant end of Oct 07 and living off my redundancy for 6 months then signing on for 3 months whilst continuing to look for CAD work through out 08 and finding several temp contracts until the end of Nov 08. Also, as she works more than 24 hours per week, I'm not entitled to any help with rent - so she had been expected to pay for all of it. Now she is almost broke as well and still has the mental health issues I mentioned before - it's better than it was but she's still very fragile and all of these financial and employment worries are not helping.

Just at the time when the most people need state help because of state incompetency and financial mismanagement, the state changes the rules to make it harder for people to get assistance when they most need it ie. when there is rising unemployment (2million unemployed is a conservative estimate because these are figures for those who are actually entitled to jobseekers allowance, not people like me who were told to take a long walk off a short pier) and falling jobs (how many firms have gone bust in the UK recently that we have heard about and how many have had to reduce staff or staff hours just to avoid going bankrupt?).

Now we have to start all over again. All the work and effort to build a life for ourselves and to put aside a small amount of savings for the future is wasted, gone, swallowed up by a debt problem that was not ours to begin with.

I'm glad I don't have any kids, otherwise we'd be ******. Totally and utterly ******! How can you explain to a child that you cannot afford to feed and clothe it properly because of something over which you have no influence? Thank god for small mercies that we don't have to have that burden too.

Thanks for listening guys. I know things could be much worse by say african standards; granted. But it's my prediction that things are only going to get worse here in the UK, much, much worse. We are only seeing the beginning of the real effects of the 'economic downturn' (that's such an innocuous statement, which belies the real cost to normal people).

The government here has bailed out many of the high-street banks using taxpayers money but refuses to help those same taxpayers with financial assistance when they really need it.

WHAT GIVES, ARSEHOLES?!

I'll tell you what gives... all they care about is the money and profit; people are just batteries to generate money for big business and finance to fritter away in the pursuit of ever larger profit margins.

jumpy - stressing out with no end in sight.
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Old 01-24-09, 01:05 PM   #24
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I hope everything pans out for you and your partner jumpy
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Because my friend jumpy is that all the governments in the world are helping their friends make money. Those are the ones who supported and helped them get to office one way or another.

Officials don't help much the average hard working people. Until there is a revolution and their heads are on the block about to be chopped off.

Who caused our situation?

That is an easy question to answer. But if I tell you the answer you all won't like it.
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Old 01-24-09, 01:55 PM   #26
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Cheers jimbuna

I know it could all be a lot worse, in many ways. But as the old adage goes: it's going to get worse before it gets better. I just cannot see what is being done to limit the impact only to those who are responsible. Everyone who works to live, on low to middle incomes, will suffer for a massive debt which was not theirs to incur in the first place.

If society is three meals away from anarchy, then events like these we are experiencing, certainly show where our governments loyalties lie. Sadly people like you and I will be last on the list of individuals to be considered in any solution to end the recession. It is only now that officials are declaring a recession, having hoped the public wouldn't notice the inevitable. Do they think we are fools? I guess so.

@ Wolfehunter

lol I think I know what you mean Short of standing all of them against a wall and starting afresh... should we have done this sooner? :rotfl:
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Old 01-24-09, 03:18 PM   #27
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Wife and I are currently living on a 44 foot yacht, no debt, no bills, I retired at 46 she still works as an artist. When I get bored I have no trouble finding jobs when we stay inport for any length of time.

Getting ready for a trip to the Maritime Provinces this summer then off to the Florida Keys, Bahamas and points south.
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Old 01-24-09, 05:47 PM   #28
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Am lucky in respect I work for Royal Mail and wife works for NHS ( National Health Service ) so neither is affected by current crises
So far

Though brother - plasterer - Bro in laws - Courier and AA ( Automobile Association ) have all been laid off

And only yesterday they ( the economists ) finally realise we are in a recession
Duh

Really feel for all those affected by this global crises
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Old 01-24-09, 06:03 PM   #29
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I should be ok i am a bus and coach driver so theres always a need for public transport more so now people cant afford to run a car so im lucky in a way that my job is always a need.
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Wife and I are currently living on a 44 foot yacht, no debt, no bills, I retired at 46 she still works as an artist. When I get bored I have no trouble finding jobs when we stay inport for any length of time.

Getting ready for a trip to the Maritime Provinces this summer then off to the Florida Keys, Bahamas and points south.
Throw me a PM if/when you hit Nova Scotia, beer is on me.
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