Assault weapons ban back on Obama's webpage

[Zachstar]

Why don't we just make it legal with minimum paperwork to pack a full auto AK-47.. Lets take it further and make owning a 50 cal all the rage. "Them terrorists wont mess with me when I can tear apart the neighborhood with a single box" eh?

I am pro 2nd amendment but only to a limit.

If your 44 or your 12g Buckshot can't do the job.. You do not need to play with guns.

[Stealth Hunter]

Hell, let's legalize RPGs and grenades while we're at it!

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

If your 44 or your 12g Buckshot can't do the job.. You do not need to play with guns.

What he said.

If you want to shoot the big guns join the military and get it out of your system.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Why don't we just make it legal with minimum paperwork to pack a full auto AK-47.. Lets take it further and make owning a 50 cal all the rage. "Them terrorists wont mess with me when I can tear apart the neighborhood with a single box" eh?

I am pro 2nd amendment but only to a limit.

If your 44 or your 12g Buckshot can't do the job.. You do not need to play with guns.

If you knew anything about guns, you'd already know that you can do all these things and many people do. I have several friends with full auto AK's and full auto MP5's. I've also put many a shot down range from .50 cal's.

Guess what? No one 'ever' uses something like this in a crime. You'd be hard pressed to find more than one or two cases. Handguns tun out to be the weapon of choice in 99% of all gun related crimes. Even sporting rifles fail to make even the 1% mark and fall far short of it by orders of magnitude.

But I guess they look ugly. Lets ban them because they look ugly. Gun control people are all stupid in my opinion because they fail to look at the facts. Actually they are just sheep.

The real reason is the Gov doesn't want the people to be able to fight back effectively.

-S

[nikimcbee]

I have a .58 caliber, is that a problem?:rotfl:

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I have a .58 caliber, is that a problem?:rotfl:

In Zachstars world - yes.

[subchaser12]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

If you knew anything about guns, you'd already know that you can do all these things and many people do. I have several friends with full auto AK's and full auto MP5's. I've also put many a shot down range from .50 cal's.

The real reason is the Gov doesn't want the people to be able to fight back effectively.

-S

Just curious Subman1 were you ever in the military?

If you knew anything about the law you would know if you get caught doing that you will go to prison. Go ahead and empty a magazine from a full auto weapon that can't be full auto. You're doing time even if it was justified.

The government isn't worried about you fighting back. You really think you are going to stop a lowly infantry squad rolling into your house? What about a Bradley with its 25MM cannon? Nope, if they want you they will get you, full auto or not.

I never even used burst in the military. Full auto and burst was just for fun to play around with, don't use it. Semi auto is all you need, anything else won't hit jack. Full auto is for the movies. Taking it off semi auto is asking for a jam.

Joe six pack does NOT need an armory filled with assault weapons. Get real.

[August]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

Joe six pack does NOT need an armory filled with assault weapons. Get real.

It's not for you to say what people "need".

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

Just curious Subman1 were you ever in the military?

If you knew anything about the law you would know if you get caught doing that you will go to prison. Go ahead and empty a magazine from a full auto weapon that can't be full auto. You're doing time even if it was justified.

If you knew anything about the law you would know that you can own fully automatic weapons via the proper federal licensing. Shooting them at approved ranges is also perfectly legal. It requires a lot of background checks, and a lot of money, but over a quarter-million fully functioning machine guns are currently owned in the United States today.

The government isn't worried about you fighting back. You really think you are going to stop a lowly infantry squad rolling into your house? What about a Bradley with its 25MM cannon? Nope, if they want you they will get you, full auto or not.

Joe six pack does NOT need an armory filled with assault weapons. Get real.

But that's why the 2nd Amendment is there in the first place. The Revolution started when the Governor of Massachussetts sent troops to 'collect' the cannons in a privately held armory. How 'real' do you want us to get?

[Yahoshua]

Originally Posted by subchaser12

Just curious Subman1 were you ever in the military?

If you knew anything about the law you would know if you get caught doing that you will go to prison. Go ahead and empty a magazine from a full auto weapon that can't be full auto. You're doing time even if it was justified.

The government isn't worried about you fighting back. You really think you are going to stop a lowly infantry squad rolling into your house? What about a Bradley with its 25MM cannon? Nope, if they want you they will get you, full auto or not.

I never even used burst in the military. Full auto and burst was just for fun to play around with, don't use it. Semi auto is all you need, anything else won't hit jack. Full auto is for the movies. Taking it off semi auto is asking for a jam.

Joe six pack does NOT need an armory filled with assault weapons. Get real.

This is a good compressed explanation of Class III weapons and NFA weapons in general.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_III_NFA_firearm


Yes Machine Guns are legal and yes we can own them. However the majority of machineguns are collectibles and do nothing but sit in a safe and look pretty on a wall. Sound supressors are grteat and wonderful tools for reducing noise pollution and preserving your hearing. In Europe it is easier to get a sound supressor than it is to get a firearm.

Also, by definition an "Assault Rifle" (any object can be used for assault) must be an intermediate caliber between that of a pistol and battle-rifle (between .380 ACP and 8mm) and the weapon in question must be capable of slective fire between semi-auto and fully-automatic fire.

Regardless of your opinion, it is legal and moreover a birthright of the responsible law-abiding U.S. citizen to own, posess, and enjoy these firearms in a safe and responsible manner.




Think on this for a minute:

If the government doesn't plan on doing anything bad to us citizens, why are governmnet agencies or special-interest groups so intent on disarming the populace?

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

There's a place you can buy ammo online? Do you remeber any names? One place had it for pretty cheap, but I don't remember the name.

I found it!
...the answer to my question!
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM636-5.html

[Tchocky]

I don't really see guns coming up as an issue over the next year or so.
It's totally at odds with the current political atmosphere, tackling a recession, climate change, somehow resolving 2 wars at once.
Plus, didn't the Supreme Court overturn that DC ban only a year or so ago? THat alone should knock this issue into cold stoarage for at least another Presidential/Congressional term.

[Morts]

what would you even need an assault weapon for ?
doesnt a shutgun/pistol defend your house well enough ? or do you have the splatter the person up on the wall ?

[August]

Originally Posted by Morts

what would you even need an assault weapon for ?
doesnt a shutgun/pistol defend your house well enough ? or do you have the splatter the person up on the wall ?

A shotgun would do way more damage than a couple rounds from a semi-auto.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I found it!
...the answer to my question!

I'm so glad there are people like you on this forum who are willing to provide the answers to people with questions like yours. If you need anything else, just ask. I'm sure you'll be glad to help.