Georgian solders "borrowed" by Russian troops

[Bruno Lotse]

Originally Posted by Thomen

Did you actually got any kind of military experience, or are those thoughts of yours just pipe dreams of a disillusioned generation?

Yes, I do.
Because in my country military service is an honorable duty of every male citizen.
We don't join army for the a college grant.
We are getting ready to defend our Motherland anytime anywhere.

Originally Posted by Thomen

And nice to see, that you basically, with just a few sentences, all the brave souls that fought and were forced to surrender (because there was no way out) in the Great Patriotic War call cowardly and weak. Damn, your country (whichever it might be) must be really proud of you for your contribution.

That's precisely becase most Soviet solders were solders - not cowards -
they would not surrender and would not allow Germans in Moscow.

Instead the Red Army visited Berlin.
The US Army had guts to land in Europe only in June 1944 !!! - just not to allow the Red Army to end up in Paris. That's it.

[SUBMAN1]

This fantasy land you live in is cracking me up! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Please keep it coming!

-S

[August]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Which one, Russia or Canada ? :rotfl:
Definitely a clone of the other Serbian (?) guy.

I'm almost willing to bet its the same guy.

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

Yes, I do.
Because in my country military service is an honorable duty of every male citizen.
We don't join army for the a college grant.
We are getting ready to defend our Motherland anytime anywhere.

That's precisely becase most Soviet solders were solders - not cowards -
they would not surrender and would not allow Germans in Moscow.

Instead the Red Army visited Berlin.
The US Army had guts to land in Europe only in June 1944 !!! - just not to allow the Red Army to end up in Paris. That's it.

Ah, you are Russian. You seem to forget the small but significant fact, that your Motherland depended on the aid of the countries you talk down to now, too even have a fighting chance against the Germans forces.

[Bruno Lotse]

Ah, you are Russian.

No, I am not. Try harder.

You seem to forget the small but significant fact, that your Motherland depended on the aid of the countries you talk down to now, too even have a fighting chance against the Germans forces.

Dependent?
Which US factory would produce T-34s tanks,
ZIS-3 guns,
PPSh-41 machine-guns,
IL-2 'Schturmovik' assault planes
or S-13 submarine which sank 'Gustloff' ?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

Yes, I do.
Because in my country military service is an honorable duty of every male citizen.
We don't join army for the a college grant.
We are getting ready to defend our Motherland anytime anywhere.

That's precisely becase most Soviet solders were solders - not cowards -
they would not surrender and would not allow Germans in Moscow.

Instead the Red Army visited Berlin.
The US Army had guts to land in Europe only in June 1944 !!! - just not to allow the Red Army to end up in Paris. That's it.

Most Soviet soldiers were peasants, called (read=forced) to defend their motherland. Most of the officers were treating Stalin as a god and blindly following Stalin's orders, not to forget the thousands of soldiers they killed even from the slightest act of cowardy. Most of the REAL soldiers Stalin killed in his purges.

BTW, who did give the Soviet airforce more up-to-date planes to cover the losses of thousands of planes on the 1st month of Operation Barbarossa? :p

My friend, you speak boldly. But read some history first will you?

[Bruno Lotse]

BTW, who did give the Soviet airforce more up-to-date planes to cover the losses of thousands of planes on the 1st month of Operation Barbarossa?

And which planes are these?
Airocobra?
Is it the same plane which US flyers would spit on and did not want to fly?
So they would send a crap to Russians and would call it 'a great help'!!!

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

Ah, you are Russian.

No, I am not. Try harder.

You seem to forget the small but significant fact, that your Motherland depended on the aid of the countries you talk down to now, too even have a fighting chance against the Germans forces.

Dependent?
Which US factory would produce T-34s tanks,
ZIS-3 guns,
PPSh-41 machine-guns,
IL-2 'Schturmovik' assault planes
or S-13 submarine which sank 'Gustloff' ?

Yes, the Soviets depended on the Aid of the other allied countries. Or are you trying to tell us, that the Soviet bear was totally selfsucient in its war efforts?

[Happy Times]

He sure thinks like an average Russian, he definetly would blend in well.

[Bruno Lotse]

Tell me,
what the help it was in terms of machines, guns and will discuss battle quality of
your supplies.
Bell Airocobra - US AirForce - Oh no! take away this crap!
Sherman - German tankers would call it 'tommy cooker'. Thanks for helping Germans cook Ivan, America!
Stuart? - you can make a nice boom from stuart from a single 37mm shot. Thanks again.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

BTW, who did give the Soviet airforce more up-to-date planes to cover the losses of thousands of planes on the 1st month of Operation Barbarossa?

And which planes are these?
Airocobra?
Is it the same plane which US flyers would spit on and did not want to fly?
So they would send a crap to Russians and would call it 'a great help'!!!

Yes, I mean the Airacobra.

It wasnt great, but it was a definite improvement considering the I-16 & I-153 that simply lacked the power to go in vertical fights with the Messerschmitt 109.

And let's not forget the Hurricanes Soviets got.

IIRC (I have the book, but cant ******* remember, so might be wrong), the first plane to really match the Me109 was Yak9 or La5.

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

Tell me,
what the help it was in terms of machines, guns and will discuss battle quality of
your supplies.
Bell Airocobra - US AirForce - Oh, no take away this crap!
Sherman - German tankers would call it 'tommy cooker'. Thanks for helping German cook Ivan, America!
Stuart? - you can make a nice boom from stuart from a single 37mm shot. Thanks again.

So, shipping's of petroleum, natural resources and technology is not considered help?

Oh yea.. for your reading enjoyment here is some American "propaganda":
http://www.history.army.mil/books/ww...endix-a.htm#t1

Damn.. according to your words, it was all a waste of time and money than.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse

BTW, who did give the Soviet airforce more up-to-date planes to cover the losses of thousands of planes on the 1st month of Operation Barbarossa?

And which planes are these?
Airocobra?
Is it the same plane which US flyers would spit on and did not want to fly?
So they would send a crap to Russians and would call it 'a great help'!!!

Why do you come on to what is an American owned forum, a forum that is patronised in the main by people from the North American continent and goad them so in respect to a country that is clearly an ally of America? :hmm:

Everyone should be free to voice an opinion, especially in what so many people call 'the snake pit'....but in checking over your recent post history it would appear to me anyway that all you are attempting to do is bait people for a reaction.

[Bruno Lotse]

Brits Hurricanes Russians would call 'drova' ,i.e. 'flying woods'.
Hurricane was relegated to the areas of small combat activity, because it was no match to MsBf 109. Eventully it would be used only for trailing a young flyers.

Bell AirCobra - good catch if US did not wanna use it itself. Thanks. But no thanks.

But how about Soviet Yak family fighters, Mig fighters, Lavochkin/''
'La funf in der Luft'
Which allied factory would produce those Yaks, La's, and Migs?

[AVGWarhawk]

How about the p-40?