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Old 08-05-08, 07:17 AM   #16
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Not even animals take delight from seeing another one suffering - including their prey.

I take it you have never seen a cat play with a mouse before.
No argument. Cats TRAIN by that. It is even more obvious witch Orcas, who often let their prey escape if they have youngster with them. They demonstrate the proper hunting technique, then let the victim escape so that the youngster can have a try next.

what has that to do with defending and wishing for the suffering of delinquents with slobber dripping from the corner of your mouth and yelling for the show finally getting started - if you forgive my slight exaggeration to make the difference clear (although I remember TV pictures from demonstrations for death penalty where almost exactly this was to be seen - surprisingly often some self-declared followers of Jesus: so-called "Christians"...)?
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Old 08-05-08, 07:26 AM   #17
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I consider "death-penalty" to be a logical contradiction in itself anyway, but beside that disucssion, I always wondered about the cult and the long ceremony being made out of it, years of waiting, and then machines and rituals and proceedings worth to entertain the audience in theatres all eveniung long.
That's a side-effect of the pomp and ceremony of our justice system. Even things like parking ticket fines can take on an air of nobility and prestige when presented in U.S. Courts. It helps make it seem more valid.

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A death squad, execution by shooting, would be enough, efficient, and simple.
Leave it to a German to devlop the most efficient way of doing anything


I wish they would abolish the death penalty. We could put all those guys to work doing a variety of unpleasant tasks or use them as free labor to build infrastructure or something. It has the added benefit of not having the possibility of killing a man later found to be innocent. As compensation for his wrongful imprisonment, we could backpay him for his work and add a nice bonus.
Our prisons are too kind
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Old 08-05-08, 07:49 AM   #18
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I think that whether or not a cat takes delight when playing with a mouse is conjecture and (I forget the actual word) is placing human emotions onto an animal.
~ anthropomorohism ~
Anthropomorphism is the attribution of uniquely human characteristics to nonhuman beings, inanimate objects, or natural or supernatural phenomena. Animals, forces of nature, games, and unseen or unknown sources of chance are frequent subjects of anthropomorphism.

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A simple recipe for humane execution

1.5 lbs of pure heroin disolved into 2 pints of water and an IV drip.
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Old 08-05-08, 08:23 AM   #19
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Seeing I'm against the whole "put to sleep, kill then" type of executions, I say hang the bastard! (or shoot or give him the chair, I dont care as long as he's dead.)
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Old 08-05-08, 09:02 AM   #20
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I wish they would abolish the death penalty. We could put all those guys to work doing a variety of unpleasant tasks or use them as free labor to build infrastructure or something. It has the added benefit of not having the possibility of killing a man later found to be innocent. As compensation for his wrongful imprisonment, we could backpay him for his work and add a nice bonus.
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I should think putting those sentenced to death under the scapel of experimental medicine would also be quite fitting - for those with no chance of appeal, and would otherwise just be sitting in prisons waiting for execution. Human testing is always valuable, and I'm sure you could find any kind but the ones smart enough to stay out of prison, like in congress, in prisons across America for how race and genetics may play a factor in the result of a particular drug.
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Old 08-05-08, 09:03 AM   #21
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They need to put his fat a** on a Crash diet with a experimental pill. (which could kill him anyway) then stick his fat but in the eletric chair. Buzz sizzle sizzle.
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Old 08-05-08, 09:05 AM   #22
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They need to put his fat a** on a Crash diet with a experimental pill. (which could kill him anyway) then stick his fat but in the eletric chair. Buzz sizzle sizzle.
SHISH KEBAAAB!!! :rotfl:
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Old 08-05-08, 09:07 AM   #23
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Well, I say "so what if he suffers". I bet he did not give any thought about the suffering of his victims and their family.

Cap him!
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Old 08-05-08, 09:14 AM   #24
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Thats what im thinking. He didnt care about his victims, a needle is not even what i consider pain or anything like that. And the stuff they give them just puts them tosleep like a dog being put to sleep. A eletric chair would send acouple of thousand volts chasing around his elephant sized body.
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The empathy he had for his victims matters as much as the colour of his socks.

The penalty is death, not a painful death, and not pain. If this disturbs you, write your politicians for the implementation of a torture penalty.
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Old 08-05-08, 10:17 AM   #26
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The Death Penalt is a serious business.

Offer an alternative means of execution.

As quite correctly stated earlier, the victims weren't given the opportunity to appeal their deaths.
Death by jelly donuts!
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I think thats the way he would want to go.
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I think that whether or not a cat takes delight when playing with a mouse is conjecture and (I forget the actual word) is placing human emotions onto an animal.
~ anthropomorohism ~
Anthropomorphism is the attribution of uniquely human characteristics to nonhuman beings, inanimate objects, or natural or supernatural phenomena. Animals, forces of nature, games, and unseen or unknown sources of chance are frequent subjects of anthropomorphism.

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A simple recipe for humane execution

1.5 lbs of pure heroin disolved into 2 pints of water and an IV drip.
The greeks called this "Anthropopatheia". Most people call all figurative lingo an "allegory" or a "metaphor". Good eye, for language there! I would use clorox for the goons rather than sliding out on heroin.
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Old 08-05-08, 10:29 AM   #29
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The empathy he had for his victims matters as much as the colour of his socks.

The penalty is death, not a painful death, and not pain. If this disturbs you, write your politicians for the implementation of a torture penalty.
Good valid point....hence the exploration of an alternative means whether it be hanging or lethal pill etc.
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The empathy he had for his victims matters as much as the colour of his socks.

The penalty is death, not a painful death, and not pain. If this disturbs you, write your politicians for the implementation of a torture penalty.
Good valid point....hence the exploration of an alternative means whether it be hanging or lethal pill etc.
Yup, there was a long thread about the lethal injection several months ago. My basic point is that if you have a deatth penalty, leave it as a death penalty, don't try to work revenge and torture into it under the name of justice.
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